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Old 04-10-2021, 7:39am   #21
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I think that in both US and Canada, the governments are going to keep their knees on our necks until we fight back.
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Massive fail. Canadians descended en masse from all over to tear down the fences, and the church members helped the police put it back up, and worse, stood in front of the fence to prevent the good Samaritans from tearing it down again.

I'm done with those particular church goers. I understand them being meek, and not wanting to physically tear down the fence abomination themselves. I get the turn the other cheek thing, I really do, but they went over and above, physically siding with their own oppressors, in what I can only compare to Stockholm Syndrome.

Crowd: "We're here to help y'all get your church back! In fact, we're going to take it back for you, just step aside and watch how it's done."

Churchgoers: "Not only do we not thank you, we're physically going to stop you from helping."

These people probably would have seen Jesus rolling the stone away and called the Roman authorities to help keep it sealed.

Clown. World.
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If the American government can offer asylum to those from terrorist nations and criminals hopping the Southern border, surely we can give room to Christians just to our north

Christians in several provinces in Canada are being persecuted by the very definition of that term. The world has watched in horror as Pastor James Coates of Faith Life Church in Edmonton, was arrested and illegally held in jail for more than a month, only for holding religious services. Last week, police in Edmonton tried to enter and disrupt their worship services on Easter Sunday, which is against the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This week, a fascist fence company gleefully put up a double concentration camp fence around the church building on behalf of police.

But Coates is not the only one. Pastor Steve Flippin of Fellowship Baptist Church in Saskatoon in the province of Saskatchewan has been repeatedly harassed, along with his congregation, and charged for holding services in accordance to their Charter liberties. Also last week, the world watched in amazement as a Polish pastor in Calgary kicked out police trying to harass the congregation during Passover.

In each Canadian province, Christians are being routinely harassed, fined, and even arrested for exercising their rights laid out in the “Fundamental Freedoms” section of the Canadian Charter. That section reads that Canadian Citizens have the right to “(a) freedom of religion and conscience” and (c) “freedom of peaceful assembly.”

Given the largely secular environment of Canada, social media is rife with comments begging the Canadian government to incarcerate, imprison, and even execute Christians gathering for worship.

Meanwhile, although hotspots of tyranny exist in the United States in highly urbanized areas controlled by the Democratic Party, America still remains largely free and even where local health ordinances are being thwarted, Christians obeying God rather than Caesar have it quite well compared to their Canadian brethren and largely are not being prosecuted. And where Americans have been prosecuted for holding worship services – most prominently, Grace Community Church led by Dr. John MacArthur in California – the Christians have repeatedly won because of the strength of our First Amendment.
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Disagree.

Those fences were put up by the govt, and they will be shamed into taking them down and saying to the public, “here, go to church”

Meanwhile, the members can preach to the police all day long. Captive audience.
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Disagree.

Those fences were put up by the govt, and they will be shamed into taking them down and saying to the public, “here, go to church”

Meanwhile, the members can preach to the police all day long. Captive audience.

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10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.
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Christians fight a spiritual battle, not with guns and swords, but with the Word of God, to change hearts and minds.

from the KJV:

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Power of God's might (v. 10)
Truth (v.14)
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as I noted before, we are to obey laws, all laws, and pay our taxes. The only exception is if the law requires us to do something that God forbids, or if the law prohibits us to do something that God requires (like meeting together on Sunday).

and they did meet, somewhere a bit away.

once they get to court, they can address the govt and tell them they are wrong.

people in Canada, the land of politeness, are pissed at this, and rightly so.
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Christians fight a spiritual battle, not with guns and swords, but with the Word of God, to change hearts and minds.

from the KJV:

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Power of God's might (v. 10)
Truth (v.14)
Righteousness (v.14)
Gospel of peace (v. 15)
Faith (v. 16)
Salvation (v. 17)
Word of God (v. 17)
Prayer (v. 18)
Perseverance and Supplication (v. 18)

as I noted before, we are to obey laws, all laws, and pay our taxes. The only exception is if the law requires us to do something that God forbids, or if the law prohibits us to do something that God requires (like meeting together on Sunday).

and they did meet, somewhere a bit away.


once they get to court, they can address the govt and tell them they are wrong.

people in Canada, the land of politeness, are pissed at this, and rightly so.
This is what I'm trying to get through. Do you think the congregation managed to meet in secret, to worship, and somehow did not violate the same diktats that caused the police to seize their original church building? I really doubt they followed the 'law' in their new, undisclosed location. I could be wrong, but do you see my argument? Do you think they suddenly followed all the rules? They didn't follow the rules in the first place, the reason their property was impounded and the pastor spent a month in jail. They already failed to obey all laws, and they probably didn't obey all laws again today when they met at an undisclosed location.

What's the difference if they violate the law in secret, like the early Christians did, like the Christians in China do right now, today, and an attempt at active resistance we saw today, the VERY symbolic tearing down of the fences?
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