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Old 01-18-2012, 9:24am   #41
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so, then why did you vote for the fool? did you not understand his vision of America?
It was a lesser of two evil decision. While my Obama vote was a lapse in judgement, John McCain? Not a fukin' CHANCE.
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It was a lesser of two evil decision. While my Obama vote was a lapse in judgement, John McCain? Not a fukin' CHANCE.
so, given the same choices...

you would vote for Obama again...

got it.
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so, given the same choices...

you would vote for Obama again...

got it.
Even YOU are not THIS thick. How simple it is to look back and play the "If I only knew then what I what I know now" game.
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I can just see him telling his buddies, "Hey look what I can do!" BAM!!! "Oh shit...."
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I can just see him telling his buddies, "Hey look what I can do!" BAM!!! "Oh shit...."
Quiet you-Thomas and LATB are at it again.
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Quiet you-Thomas and LATB are at it again.
This one is civil. My nemesis is behaving like the grown up he claims to be.
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Even YOU are not THIS thick. How simple it is to look back and play the "If I only knew then what I what I know now" game.
aahhh...

there lies the problem...

most of us knew. you, obviously bought a bill of goods.

please pay more attention this time. thanks.
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most of us knew
"Most of us knew?" He got elected didnt he? Most of did NOT know!

Here: I'll spot you the C, L and E (Again)
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"Most of us knew?" He got elected didnt he? Most of did NOT know!
to not know Obama's positions...and his vision of America...before pulling the lever...would only prove ignorance.

and there are a lot of ignorant fools with the right to vote. please do not be among this group again this fall. thanks.
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to not know Obama's positions...and his vision of America...before pulling the lever...would only prove ignorance.

and there are a lot of ignorant fools with the right to vote. please do not be among this group again this fall. thanks.
Too easy Larry. Water under the bridge.
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Even YOU are not THIS thick. How simple it is to look back and play the "If I only knew then what I what I know now" game.
Well, some of us do our research before we pull the lever. I knew that Obama was the greater of two evils. So did plenty of other folks that actually find out what the man that is going to lead these United States is actually all about.

What part of the following did you not know and/or understand?

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Thousands cheer Obama at rally for change - Columbia Missourian
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As part of her transition out of power, Alice Palmer introduced her successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district's influential liberals at the home of left-wing terrorists, William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn -- long-time friends of the Obamas.

Barack Obama and Bill Ayers
Fundamentally transform? The fundamentals are derived from the Constitution. Who, in their right mind, would want to transform the Constitution? A radical left wing Communist, that's who.

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I knew that Obama was the lesser of two evils
So you voted for him? No? You voted for the MORE evil selection?

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What part of the following did you not know and/or understand?
Your post primarily.
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Hell, Just being a politician from Chicago Ill. was enough to scare me.
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So you voted for him? No? You voted for the MORE evil selection?


Your post primarily.
Ok, so I screwed up my post. But you knew exactly what I meant. Here, I'll go fix it and you can re-read it and then maybe you can understand.
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Ok, so I screwed up my post. But you knew exactly what I meant. Here, I'll go fix it and you can re-read it and then maybe you can understand.
Sober up dipshit before you call me on the carpet.
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Hell, Just being a politician from Chicago Ill. was enough to scare me.
Don't be a dope. He's from Hawaii.

He was TRAINED by Chicago politicians when he moved here
Glad we had a chance to share him with the whole country.

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Sober up dipshit before you call me on the carpet.
I'm not drunk and you have yet to answer me. I also see you've resorted to name calling. You just lost the debate.
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Another self-proclaimed "Expert" What a fukin' bore.

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What I'm having with Larry is a debate. What I'm having with you is over.
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Another self-proclaimed "Expert" What a fukin' bore.


What I'm having with Larry is a debate. What I'm having with you is over.
Great answer to my question. Way to run away when I point out that the person you voted for is a radical Communist.

Oh, and I don't proclaim to be an expert. I only proclaim that I have enough intelligence to do my research before voting for someone. Unlike the ignorant blind sheep.
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Divers are searching for survivors of the cruise ship Costa Concordia that ran aground off Italy's Tuscan coast and tipped over. But, once the search is called off, what will be done with the half-submerged, $570 million vessel?

Maritime salvage specialists are already on the scene assessing the damage to figure this out. Despite the attention the wreck has gotten in the media, the clean-up process will follow a fairly standard protocol.

"This goes on all the time but you don't hear about it because they aren't as spectacular as this one," Mike Lacey, secretary general of the International Salvage Union, told the BBC. "But there's always a ship in trouble somewhere."

In all, the Costa Concordia mess could take months, and possibly years, to clean up.

First, salvage crews will need to conduct underwater inspections to evaluate the damage of the starboard (submerged) side of the hull. The port-side hull and the rest of the ship that's visible above the waterline have sustained substantial damage. How badly the rocks have gouged the starboard hull will determine how the salvage companies proceed. [Are Cruise Ships a Health Risk?]

Then there's the fuel. The large cruise ship was carrying more than 2,000 tons of diesel fuel when it wrecked. There are no apparent leaks, but officials have deployed anti-spill booms around the ship, in case it shifts on the rocks and one of 17 tanks ruptures. Any spill could cause an ecological nightmare in the area.

A Dutch company called Smit, which specializes in salvage operations, will remove the remaining fuel using a system of pumps and valves that will vacuum the oil out of the ship and into transport tanks. This process will take two to four weeks.

The next step is to get the ship upright. Doing this involves an old-fashioned process called parbuckling, in which barges with huge winches crank the ship into position, bit by bit. Costa Crociere, the ship's parent company, said that inflatable bags could be placed under the ship to help lift it. The air bags would also come in handy to help the vessel float when tug boats need to haul it away.

Once upright, crews will need to clean out the ship. Food in the galleys is probably rotten, and passengers' belongings need to be recovered, though workers suspect that anything below the waterline is probably beyond repair.

Previous shipwrecks have been patched up in order to transport.

"It's possible, with small areas of damage, to prefabricate a [steel] patch and put it into place," said Dawn Gorman, editor of the magazine International Tug & OSV. "It may be the ship isn't salvageable and it isn't possible to right it, patch it up and send it on its way, because fundamental damage has been done."

If this is possible with the Costa Concordia, once it is upright crews will pump out the water, stabilize it and apply patches. But whether this is possible won't be known for weeks, at least.

Once the ship is upright and floating, whether by air bags or on its own, it will likely be towed away by tugboats and be docked elsewhere for full assessment.

It's possible that repairs could make the vessel seaworthy again, but that will be decided by the ship's insurer, who will have to assess the full cost of repairs. Based on initial reports, several experts believe it's more likely that the ship will be declared a total loss and chopped up for scrap.
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