Charging an electric car in the garage, New York, 1911.

[Lakota]

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[Vandelay Industries]

A nice, neat knob and tube wiring job.

[Egnalf]

ancient technology when people lived/worked within a few miles of their home. Everything old is not new again. We dont need electric cars, scamdemics, alcohol control, and terrible presidents in 2022.

[erickpl]

Originally Posted by Egnalf

ancient technology when people lived/worked within a few miles of their home. Everything old is not new again. We dont need electric cars, scamdemics, alcohol control, and terrible presidents in 2022.

I can tell you that having an EV has drastically reduced our monthly gas bill while minimally upping our electric cost (we charge at home 99% of the time). Costs about as much to charge it as it does to run the dryer for a week's worth of laundry using the 50a circuit it is on.

Yes, we DO use it for long trips, but it does require planning for using the DC fast chargers since the chargers are more sporadic than gas stations, especially out west. But for around town, we charge maybe twice a month.

I still have my Jeep and truck for hauling needs, Home Depot trips, etc, and I think it has worked well. The payments on the car are less than the car we got rid of, as is insurance. Installation of the charger was pretty much covered by tax credit in my state.

While it is 'old tech', it works well for us. Gets a lot of questions and looks, and is pretty quick. I'm not spitting exhaust into the air, which we like.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by erickpl

I can tell you that having an EV has drastically reduced our monthly gas bill while minimally upping our electric cost (we charge at home 99% of the time). Costs about as much to charge it as it does to run the dryer for a week's worth of laundry using the 50a circuit it is on.

Yes, we DO use it for long trips, but it does require planning for using the DC fast chargers since the chargers are more sporadic than gas stations, especially out west. But for around town, we charge maybe twice a month.

I still have my Jeep and truck for hauling needs, Home Depot trips, etc, and I think it has worked well. The payments on the car are less than the car we got rid of, as is insurance. Installation of the charger was pretty much covered by tax credit in my state.

While it is 'old tech', it works well for us. Gets a lot of questions and looks, and is pretty quick. I'm not spitting exhaust into the air, which we like.

Your thoughts on the mining effort to produce the batteries? Or the coal to produce the electricity to charge?

[Bill]

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by erickpl

I can tell you that having an EV has drastically reduced our monthly gas bill while minimally upping our electric cost (we charge at home 99% of the time). Costs about as much to charge it as it does to run the dryer for a week's worth of laundry using the 50a circuit it is on.

Yes, we DO use it for long trips, but it does require planning for using the DC fast chargers since the chargers are more sporadic than gas stations, especially out west. But for around town, we charge maybe twice a month.

I still have my Jeep and truck for hauling needs, Home Depot trips, etc, and I think it has worked well. The payments on the car are less than the car we got rid of, as is insurance. Installation of the charger was pretty much covered by tax credit in my state.

While it is 'old tech', it works well for us. Gets a lot of questions and looks, and is pretty quick. I'm not spitting exhaust into the air, which we like.

This works for my cousin in NC as well, who presently pays 6 cents per KWH of electricity. In CA, I was paying 12 cents per KWH in 1990....33 years ago.
I am now paying 49cents per KWH in CA and am on a grid with rolling blackouts. I average 3 power outages per month. If EV's become mandated, our local society will collapse.
In 1900, 123 years ago, there were more EV's than gas powered or steam powered cars in America. That was because the old pre-starter cars were a bear to start for women and weaker folks. They had the same limitations today's EV's do, the main one being the big lie that they are clean. They are anything but. Toxic batteries, toxic mining, and getting charged from fossil fuel electric plants. Robbing Peter to Pay Paul. EV's are viable in certain settings, but for the government to foist them upon us with no alternatives in the near future is, in my mind, communism.

[JRD77VET]

Originally Posted by LATB

Your thoughts on the mining effort to produce the batteries? Or the coal to produce the electricity to charge?

Or recycling the old components. To extract the rare earth products would be the same as baking a cake and then attempting to remove the eggs from the cake.

[erickpl]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

This works for my cousin in NC as well, who presently pays 6 cents per KWH of electricity. In CA, I was paying 12 cents per KWH in 1990....33 years ago.
I am now paying 49cents per KWH in CA and am on a grid with rolling blackouts. I average 3 power outages per month. If EV's become mandated, our local society will collapse.
In 1900, 123 years ago, there were more EV's than gas powered or steam powered cars in America. That was because the old pre-starter cars were a bear to start for women and weaker folks. They had the same limitations today's EV's do, the main one being the big lie that they are clean. They are anything but. Toxic batteries, toxic mining, and getting charged from fossil fuel electric plants. Robbing Peter to Pay Paul. EV's are viable in certain settings, but for the government to foist them upon us with no alternatives in the near future is, in my mind, communism.

Kinda thinking at this point, if Lake Powell and Mead cannot provide water to California, EV power and the grid will be the least of worries out there. ;(

Your points are well taken about the grid, that's for sure.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by erickpl

I still have my Jeep and truck for hauling needs, Home Depot trips, etc,

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by Egnalf

ancient technology when people lived/worked within a few miles of their home. Everything old is not new again. We dont need electric cars, scamdemics, alcohol control, and terrible presidents in 2022.

A year after that picture we had, arguably, the worst president in US history. Wilson gave birth to the Administrative State that we suffer under today.