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Old 03-31-2011, 12:29pm   #1
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EVERY person on that page should be shot for treason.....

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Frances Fox Piven Rings in The New Year By Calling for Violent Revolution | The Blaze

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Andrew Cloward and his wife Frances Fox Piven.
She’s considered by many as the grandmother of using the American welfare state to implement revolution. Make people dependent on the government, overload the government rolls, and once government services become unsustainable, the people will rise up, overthrow the oppressive capitalist system, and finally create income equality. Collapse the system and create a new one. That‘s the simplified version of Frances Fox Piven’s philosophy originally put forth in the pages of The Nation in the 60s.

Now, as the new year ball drops, Piven is at it again, ringing in 2011 with renewed calls for revolution.

In a chilling and almost unbelievable editorial again in The Nation (”Mobilizing the Jobless,” January 10/17, 2011 edition), she calls on the jobless to rise up in a violent show of solidarity and force. As before, those calls are dripping with language of class struggle. Language she and her late husband Richard Cloward made popular in the 60s.

“So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs?” she writes. “After all, the injustice is apparent. Working people are losing their homes and their pensions while robber-baron CEOs report renewed profits and windfall bonuses. Shouldn’t the unemployed be on the march? Why aren’t they demanding enhanced safety net protections and big initiatives to generate jobs?” [Emphasis added]

Those are the questions that frame what can best be called a roadmap for revolution. And it’s not long before those questions give way to directions. The first instruction: get angry.
]efore people can mobilize for collective action, they have to develop a proud and angry identity and a set of claims that go with that identity,” she writes. “They have to go from being hurt and ashamed to being angry and indignant.”

And along with anger must come a denunciation of personal responsibility. Instead, workers must realize that others have put them in their current, uneasy situation: “[T]he out-of-work have to stop blaming themselves for their hard times and turn their anger on the bosses, the bureaucrats or the politicians who are in fact responsible.”

Only then, once their rage has been properly stoked, can the angry take action. And when they do, she says, the “protesters need targets.”

For Piven, the best “targets” are the people or organizations “capable of making some kind of response to angry demands.” Regular demands, notice, just won’t do. No, people must be fired up and not easily deterred. Angry and not quickly placated. It’s a concoction Piven has seen recently in other countries — countries such as England and Greece, which she uses as models for American unrest:

An effective movement of the unemployed will have to look something like the strikes and riots that have spread across Greece in response to the austerity measures forced on the Greek government by the European Union, or like the student protests that recently spread with lightning speed across England in response to the prospect of greatly increased school fees. [Emphasis added]

What exactly do those strikes and riots look like? They’re violent and bloody, like this one in Greece, where rioters firebombed police and beat bloody a former government official:



In England they look like this, where a mob of angry students attacked the future British King and his wife and shouted “Off with their heads!” while jabbing the Duchess with a stick:



“What she is calling for is nothing less than the chaos and violence engulfing Europe,” writes Hudson Institute Senior Fellow Ron Radosh on his blog. “Disgruntled leftist unionists, students who expect an education without cost, and citizens of social-democratic states cannot accept that the old terms of the social contract they thought would last forever have worn out their welcome. The European welfare-state governments can no longer function with the kind of social programs that now far exceed their nation’s budgets and hence are moving their countries to the precipice of total collapse.”

But violence has always been Piven’s preferred method of collapse. In 2004, she admitted as much, saying that violence is condoned as long as it is part of a grand plan:



What may be new is the brazen way in which Piven is now making her intentions known. No longer do her and people like her have to hide in the shadows. Now, they feel comfortable enough with the political climate to espouse their views openly, freely, unabashedly. It’s a phenomenon Radosh believes has to do with the current administration: leftists see a renewed opportunity now that Obama is in power.



“Now, as President Barack Obama is beginning the mid-point of his first and possibly only term in office, the Left is again trying to advance a new form of the old strategy,” he writes. And “as our national economy and many state and city budgets again are at the breaking point,” he adds, “Frances Fox Piven has issued a new call to repeat and build upon the ruinous strategies that she and her late husband advanced decades ago.”

In 1966 when Cloward and Piven published their first manifesto in The Nation, Americans were spell bound — especially poorer Americans who sucked up the couple’s call like a dying desert cactus. The New Republic’s John McWhorter writes:

But when Piven and Cloward published a manifesto in The Nation, there were 30,000 reprint requests. One thousand neighborhood service centers nationwide encouraged people to go on welfare who would not have otherwise. In the ’60s, one-third of the people whose incomes made them eligible for AFDC were on the rolls. By 1971, 90 percent were.

An old strategy for a new year. Let‘s hope it doesn’t have the same effect.


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but it's perfectly fine for Beck to tell his minions "see these people? you need to shoot them in the head." get ready, boys. the Anti Tea/Corporate Thug Campaign is gaining momentum.
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but it's perfectly fine for Beck to tell his minions "see these people? you need to shoot them in the head." get ready, boys. the Anti Tea/Corporate Thug Campaign is gaining momentum.
I absolutely liked Becks' *Heavens Gate* final solution for his conservative minions ...

*shoot yourselves in the head before the Liberal communist caliphate comes to get you because Rapture has begun as the final countdown to armegeddon .... *

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I absolutely liked Becks' *Heavens Gate* final solution for his conservative minions ...

*shoot yourselves in the head before the Liberal communist caliphate comes to get you because Rapture has begun as the final countdown to armegeddon .... *

[post Jonestown drink the kook-aid pic here]
he's got them ready to do some really crazy shit, but when someone else starts talking revolution they are labeled "socialists & should be shot." [see above]
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he's got them ready to do some really crazy shit, but when someone else starts talking revolution they are labeled "socialists & should be shot." [see above]
It's beyond that ... Beck only chooses the parts of the Bible he believes in and tells his minions this is the truth ...

Rapture is an odd *Biblical truth* ... it essentially says that God or the second coming of Christ will slay all the righteous (by whatever means neccessary) so to take them to Heaven ... the rest of us Liberal heathen sinners are to *burn in hell* here on the hell-on-earth as the remnants of the God created apocalypse ...

That's the kind of stuff Beckerheads believe in ... so I suggest their time is imminent given events since Bush ...

So in this regard I have a clear conscience ...
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You mean the "Bigger government, less liberty and freedom" movement. Yeah right.
GE & Exxon Mobile paid exactly nada in income tax last year while posting record profits & the American Middle Class as a whole is earning less than what they were when Reagan took office. show me the "liberty & freedom" in that. do you have anything besides tired ass cliches that were worn out decades ago?
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Seems the libs on this board know more about Beck then we do, they must follow his every move
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Seems the libs on this board know more about Beck then we do, they must follow his every move
there's an old saying----"Know Thy Enemy."
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GE was also one of the biggest supporters of Obama's campaign and Jeff Immelt is now chairman of the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

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GE was also one of the biggest supporters of Obama's campaign and Jeff Immelt is now chairman of the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

Libs over look this as Jeff is a good guy supporting the lib agenda
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Reliable, verifiable sources?
it's common knowledge to anyone who tries to keep up with what's happening in their own country. they even got a tax refund. are you really not aware of this?
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GE was also one of the biggest supporters of Obama's campaign and Jeff Immelt is now chairman of the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

and people like us are pissed about it.
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and people like us are pissed about it.
Why? They supported Obama or they pay no taxes, seems they are not taxed enough already
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GE & Exxon Mobile paid exactly nada in income tax last year while posting record profits & the American Middle Class as a whole is earning less than what they were when Reagan took office. show me the "liberty & freedom" in that. do you have anything besides tired ass cliches that were worn out decades ago?
Exxon mobile has most of their business overseas.
Plus they paid dividends of over 8 billion in last year and the people who get that money paid income taxes on it.

And just think of all those Union retirement funds that have invested in XOM. I wonder if they would be happy having their dividends cut back?


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2 of 5Exxon Mobil: $15.1 billionU.S. federal: -$156 million
U.S. state and local: $110 million
International: $15.2 billion
Exxon paid the most taxes last year of any U.S. company, by far -- but not a cent went to the IRS for income taxes. That's because the oil giant does business in some of the mostly highly taxed countries in the world. Want to extract petroleum in Nigeria? Be prepared to fork over up to 85% of your profit in tax payments.

Exxon doled out more than $15 billion in income tax payments to foreign countries last year. U.S. tax codes allow companies to take massive deductions in light of those international charges, which knocked Exxon's federal income-tax bill down into negative territory.

That said, Uncle Sam gets his money in other ways. Including sales taxes and duties, Exxon recorded $7.7 billion in U.S. tax costs last year, and paid even more overseas.

Its grand total in global taxes for the year? A whopping $78.6 billion. The company's effective income tax rate was a hefty 47%, its highest in three years.
And GE has for decades aggressively used a tax avoidance policy that is marveled at in the world. And they do a great job of lobbying those in power to keep avoiding power. Can you say BHO is in Bed with GE?

And lastly your fallacy Abbot the middle class. If you are talking about the middle class that so=pent weeks demonstrating for their rights to collective bargaining in WI then you are totally mistaken. Their income and benefits rose and a faster rate than inflation and GDP growth.

Do you have any FACTS to back up your assertion that the rest of the middle class are earning less in real dollars now than under Reagan? Or is this more "repeat it enough" Bullshit that the left is famous for repeating ?
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there's an old saying----"Know Thy Enemy."
Keep your focus on the likes of Beck, and the people you really should have focused on will overrun your position.

It's amusing that you seem to think Beck is "all that". He's a fukin nutjob.
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Do you have any FACTS to back up your assertion that the rest of the middle class are earning less in real dollars now than under Reagan?

Or is this more "repeat it enough" Bullshit that the left is famous for repeating ?
Tell us about the *Cut & Grow Panic Agenda* perpetuated by the entire right-wing since Bush ... especially regarding extending the Bush Tax Cuts that adds to the deficits that is the only concern of the right-wing *Cut & Grow Panic Agenda* ....
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Tell us about the *Cut & Grow Panic Agenda* perpetuated by the entire right-wing since Bush ... especially regarding extending the Bush Tax Cuts that adds to the deficits that is the only concern of the right-wing *Cut & Grow Panic Agenda* ....
Stop deflecting. Tell me the facts. Did the middle class lose income in real dollars since Reagon or not. Facts not pull it out the DailyKods tlaking point. Real facts.

And if you want to talk about the growth of Defects lets compare Revenue growth during GWB to spending. Thats where he screwed up. He spent to damn much.
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