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Old 07-16-2014, 9:29am   #1
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Lets say the USA had the resources of today's Military back in the 1940's. How long do you think it would have taken us to defeat Germany? How about Japan?

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You could drop bombs in a matter of days, but you still have to occupy land if you want it under your control.
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If we had today's technology and the others had 1040's ? Do you really think that Germany and Japan would stay static ? I feel it would be very different. Germany would lay waste to the East Coast and Japan the West coast.
Germany's technology at the end of the war was FAR superior to the Allies-and they would have shared with Japan. Who knows what Germany would have by now if left to their devices.
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Would we have today's effeminate leadership or the ballsy guys of the 40s? No use having advanced tech if you only use it to apologize.
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If we had today's technology and the others had 1040's ? Do you really think that Germany and Japan would stay static ? I feel it would be very different. Germany would lay waste to the East Coast and Japan the West coast.
Germany's technology at the end of the war was FAR superior to the Allies-and they would have shared with Japan. Who knows what Germany would have by now if left to their devices.
How would they get to our coasts with 40's technology?

What timeframe are we talking about? In the short term, if we had today's tech and they had 40's tech they wouldn't ever get close. There was absolutely no weapon in their arsenal at the time that could get them to our shores against modern tech.

A battlegroup like attacked Pearl Harbor would be destroyed in a matter of minutes. A slow, prop bomber run wouldn't make it off the ground. Factories, headquarters, etc could be hit from hundreds of miles away with something like a TLAM. Their command and control would be non-existant. Their Navy would be destroyed by our subs and surface fleets before they even fired a shot. The mighty Tiger tanks would be target practice, they would have zero chance of transporting food, ammo, etc to their ground troops due to the overwhelming air superiority we would have....

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The United States would never have nuked Germany.
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Wasn't there a movie about this? A nuclear aircraft carrier tossed back in time to WWII, leaving questions about what would happen if they intervened in war? Philidelphia Experiment or something like that?
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Wasn't there a movie about this? A nuclear aircraft carrier tossed back in time to WWII, leaving questions about what would happen if they intervened in war? Philidelphia Experiment or something like that?
Final Countdown. Good movie.
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The United States would never have nuked Germany.
They would have nuked Israel though, had you been president.
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The United States would never have nuked Germany.
Why the hell would we have to nuke Germany in this scenario?
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They would have nuked Israel though, had you been president.
I wouldn't have nuked them, but I wouldn't have called off the rescue party trying to save the USS Liberty like Lyin' B Johnson did.

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: The USS Liberty, Israel & President Johnson’s Order to Destroy the USS Liberty
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Final Countdown. Good movie.
Yep. Just watched it again the other day, followed by In Harm's Way.
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You could drop bombs in a matter of days, but you still have to occupy land if you want it under your control.
NOT in the case of islam, it's a desert with a few oasis tossed around, deprive all of islam of electric power, .com, block the ports, take out a few bridges.....and watch them die off.....1.3 billion muzzies die back to the level of 1930's.....powerless to do shit about it.....

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Hypothetical.


Lets say the USA had the resources of today's Military back in the 1940's. How long do you think it would have taken us to defeat Germany? How about Japan?

We would have had total air superiority within a few days. The whole thing would have been over in a few days or a few weeks at the most. That's because back then we had the will to win.
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That depends. With today's technology and today's administration, we would have sent them flowers, played golf and taken personal vacations and fundraisers. Sure, the technology would have made a huge difference, but we will be saying the same thing in 15-20 years.

It is up to those calling the shots to maximize the efficacy of the resources available. With today's technology back then, they would have had a field day and we would not have endured as many casualties on both sides.
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The United States would never have nuked Germany.
Shit Phil, we carpet bombed Dresden for days with basically the same result as Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
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The United States would never have nuked Germany.
Your United States would have surrendered.
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Shit Phil, we carpet bombed Dresden for days with basically the same result as Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Bombing of Dresden in World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Truman was a racist.
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He's trolling. He knows damn well the Manhatten Project was meant to beat the Nazis to The Bomb and blow them away before they could hit us. It was their good luck to surrender before we finished it and turned Berlin to a crater.
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