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Old 12-29-2014, 9:08pm   #1
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Ultra-Orthodox Men Cause Flight Delay By Refusing To Sit By Women, Again

The Huffington Post | By Antonia Blumberg

Posted: 12/29/2014 3:03 pm EST Updated: 2 hours ago

An international Delta Airlines flight was reportedly delayed for roughly half an hour when several ultra-Orthodox Jewish men refused to sit next to female passengers.

Israel Radio first reported that Delta Flight 468, bound for Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion Airport from John F. Kennedy Airport, took off 30 minutes after its scheduled departure time due to commotion onboard. Several Haredi, or ultra-Orthodox men, refused to sit in their assigned seats, which placed them next to women. But other passengers also refused to swap seats with the men, causing the prolonged delay.

In Ultra-orthodox Judaism, physical contact between men and women is forbidden unless they are first-degree relatives or married to one another.

HuffPost reached out to Delta Airlines for comment but did not hear back.

A similar incident affected an El Al flight from New York to Tel Aviv in September when Haredi men began asking women seated next to them to move and even offered compensation for seat changes. Many called the flight an "11-hour long nightmare" and several women started a Change.org petition after the experience to pressure El Al to prevent future harassment of female passengers on its flights.
Ultra-Orthodox Men Cause Flight Delay By Refusing To Sit By Women, Again

If you have a problem sitting next to a woman on a plane, maybe you should charter your own flight next time.
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Jews, acting like muslims. The shame of it all.
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Jews, acting like muslims. The shame of it all.
Most every religion has zealot assholes. I'd respect the uber faithful more if they were known for doing something worthwhile, like helping people, vs. acting like pompous jerks.
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Jews, acting like muslims. The shame of it all.
No, if they were acting like Muslims they would have wanted to kill them rather than sit next to them
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Most every religion has zealot assholes. I'd respect the uber faithful more if they were known for doing something worthwhile, like helping people, vs. acting like pompous jerks.
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In Ultra-orthodox Judaism, physical contact between men and women is forbidden unless they are first-degree relatives or married to one another.
That's the two groups I want to touch the least
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A Catholic priest, Peter Smit and a rabbi are seated next to one another on a plane. During the flight, the priest says, "Tell me, rabbi, is it still a requirement of the Jewish faith that you do not eat pork?" "That is the case, yes," says the rabbi. "But tell me, did you ever get tempted - did it ever appeal so much that you couldn't resist and decided to see what, say, bacon tasted like?" the priest goes on. "Yes, father, there was one occasion when, as a young man, the smell of bacon became too much of a temptation and I tasted it," the rabbi admits. "And how did you find it?" asks the priest. "Well, says the rabbi, "Since we are both men of God and being honest with one another, I must confess it was excellent. I enjoyed it very much. But I never ate it ever again."

The priest sits back, looking smug. Later during the flight, the rabbi says to the priest, "Tell me, father - is it still a requirement of your own faith that you do not have sexual intercourse?" "Why yes," says the priest, "That is indeed true." "But were you ever tempted, even once, to see what sexual intercourse is like?" the rabbi continues. "Well, as you were so honest with me, I must confess that indeed, once, when I was a young man, I did have sexual intercourse with a woman," the priest tells him. "Beats the hell out of a bacon sandwich, doesn't it?" says the rabbi.
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This came from the Jewish Daily Forward, in early November:

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A Catholic priest, Peter Smit and a rabbi are seated next to one another on a plane. During the flight, the priest says, "Tell me, rabbi, is it still a requirement of the Jewish faith that you do not eat pork?" "That is the case, yes," says the rabbi. "But tell me, did you ever get tempted - did it ever appeal so much that you couldn't resist and decided to see what, say, bacon tasted like?" the priest goes on. "Yes, father, there was one occasion when, as a young man, the smell of bacon became too much of a temptation and I tasted it," the rabbi admits. "And how did you find it?" asks the priest. "Well, says the rabbi, "Since we are both men of God and being honest with one another, I must confess it was excellent. I enjoyed it very much. But I never ate it ever again."

The priest sits back, looking smug. Later during the flight, the rabbi says to the priest, "Tell me, father - is it still a requirement of your own faith that you do not have sexual intercourse?" "Why yes," says the priest, "That is indeed true." "But were you ever tempted, even once, to see what sexual intercourse is like?" the rabbi continues. "Well, as you were so honest with me, I must confess that indeed, once, when I was a young man, I did have sexual intercourse with a woman," the priest tells him. "Beats the hell out of a bacon sandwich, doesn't it?" says the rabbi.
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No, if they were acting like Muslims they would have wanted to kill them rather than sit next to them
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If they were acting like Muslims congress would call a special session and pass legislation that forces the airlines to accommodate them during flight.
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If you have a problem sitting next to a woman on a plane, maybe you should charter your own flight next time.
You don't really know what verklempt means do you
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Jews, acting like muslims. The shame of it all.
The custom is they are not allowed to have any physical contact, if they were acting like Muslims they would treat women like their slaves and have no problem with physical contact, especially with non-Muslim women.

I don't necessarily understand this custom, but I'm not orthodox, can't even shake hands with an ultra orthodox Rabbi, mostly just a polite nod.
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Most every religion has zealot assholes. I'd respect the uber faithful more if they were known for doing something worthwhile, like helping people, vs. acting like pompous jerks.
Hence why I have no room in my life for organized religion. Books written by men with their own agendas taken as an unbreakable rule book by those that have too little intelligence to realize that so many of these religious commands were and are used to oppress others.

Now please do not get what I am saying wrong. I believe we all have the rights to believe and follow a deity's teachings but use your own common sense. Have your own personal relationship with your deity, don't let others dictate what you know as right and wrong.
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You don't really know what verklempt means do you
I do now that I looked it up!

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The women should have dry humped them and stuck their middle finger in their faces when they got up to change seats.
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The women should have dry humped them and stuck their middle finger in their faces when they got up to change seats.
Damn, usually you have ot pay extra for that kind of action...
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I don't get why no one would swap to be polite. If he'd asked me to switch seats because some woman's tits were touching him, I'd have no problem accommodating.
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I don't get why no one would swap to be polite. If he'd asked me to switch seats because some woman's tits were touching him, I'd have no problem accommodating.
If I was one of those women, I'd be torn between being highly offended, and thus NOT wanting to change seats just to piss them off, and wanting to change seats because I wouldn't want to sit next to an asshole for half a day.

The ultra orthodox folks should have bought extra tickets, to make sure their rows were "pure."
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Hence why I have no room in my life for organized religion. Books written by men with their own agendas taken as an unbreakable rule book by those that have too little intelligence to realize that so many of these religious commands were and are used to oppress others.

Now please do not get what I am saying wrong. I believe we all have the rights to believe and follow a deity's teachings but use your own common sense. Have your own personal relationship with your deity, don't let others dictate what you know as right and wrong.
Where would one find those teachings?
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Put them in baggage with a parka and an oxygen mask. that should make them happy!
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