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Old 08-15-2016, 10:07am   #1
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Default Hillary drafts illegal 'Dreamers' to get immigrants to vote

Hillary drafts illegal 'Dreamers' to get immigrants to vote | Washington Examiner


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Hillary Clinton's campaign on Sunday announced a program to recruit undocumented "Dreamers" into a voter registration army even though they are not allowed to vote.

Celebrating the four-year anniversary of President Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, Clinton launched "Mi Sueno, Tu Voto" (My Dream, Your Vote), to rally and "secure commitments" from immigrants who can vote.

The DACA program created so-called "Dreamers," the children of illegal immigrants who the president has offered renewable two-year work visas and deportation deferral. The goal for many in the program is amnesty.

On Monday, the Democratic National Committee also heralded the DACA anniversary and said that Clinton will go further than Obama as president. "Hillary Clinton is committed to introducing immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship within her first 100 days in office and she will continue defending DACA and DAPA from partisan attacks," said the DNC.

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"We may not have the right to vote, but 'Mi Sueno, Tu Voto' will help ensure that our stories are heard and it will send a clear signal to Donald Trump that we cannot be silenced," said Astrid Silva, Nevada Dreamer and immigrant rights activist.

Her comment is in this statement put out by the Clinton campaign today:

On DACA's Four- Year Anniversary, Hillary for America Launches National Voter Registration Program, "Mi Sueno, Tu Voto"

On the four- year anniversary tomorrow when the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals' (DACA) enrollment began, Hillary for America is launching a national voter registration program, "Mi Sueno, Tu Voto" (My Dream, Your Vote), to organize DREAMers to mobilize their communities and ask voters to consider what is at stake for their families in November. "DREAMers have played a pivotal role in our campaign, advocating for families who constantly live in fear of deportation — so we've created a program that aims to turn these stories into action," said Lorella Praeli, National Director of the Latino Vote. The program calls on DREAMers across the country to join the campaign's grassroots efforts to secure commitments from their community to vote for their future in November.

"We founded this program on the premise that, one by one — through friends, families, co-workers or classmates — DREAMers' futures would be considered on Election day, " stated Praeli." "We may not have the right to vote, but "Mi Sueno, Tu Voto" will help ensure that our stories are heard and it will send a clear signal to Donald Trump that we cannot be silenced," said Astrid Silva, Nevada DREAMer and immigrant rights activist. Hillary for America will be holding events across the country this week, including in Florida, Nevada and North Carolina, to unveil the program. "Mi Sueno, Tu Voto" will also serve to remind voters of Donald Trump's hateful and dangerous agenda, highlighting his pledge to eliminate DACA and deport millions of DREAMers and immigrant families.
Now isn't this illegal?

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Now isn't this illegal?
Since when has anyone connected with the Clinton(s) campaign been at all concerned with legality?
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Since when has anyone connected with the Clinton(s) campaign been at all concerned with legality?
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Didn't Dinesh go to prison for violating campaign finance laws by donating more than allowable to a candidate who was a friend of his? I trust that the illegal alien volunteer labor will be counted at $ 15/hour worked.
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Hillary has always reminded me of Eva Peron. Always...

Now she has her very own Descamisados. Are voters really that blind?
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Priceless! More $$$$$$ for public schools, please........
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To answer the OP's question, yet, it's illegal. 8 U.S. Code § 1324. 10 to 20 years in prison.
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To answer the OP's question, yet, it's illegal. 8 U.S. Code § 1324. 10 to 20 years in prison.
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To answer the OP's question, yet, it's illegal. 8 U.S. Code § 1324. 10 to 20 years in prison.
Is there an affirmative defense because presumably the illegal aliens will not be paid for their work? Serious question.
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Is there an affirmative defense because presumably the illegal aliens will not be paid for their work? Serious question.
Good question. I think that these two provisions in the Statute I cited may answer your question:

(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.
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Good question. I think that these two provisions in the Statute I cited may answer your question:

(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.
Since the IRS consider the trading of goods or service as taxable and the parties receiving the work have to issue 1099 then I think thier "Labor' would be considered a contribution.

And since she is soliciting them it, to me,is no longer a voluntary effort but a job offer.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html
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Since the IRS consider the trading of goods or service as taxable and the parties receiving the work have to issue 1099 then I think thier "Labor' would be considered a contribution.

And since she is soliciting them it, to me,is no longer a voluntary effort but a job offer.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html
I think it's certainly a job offer.
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Good question. I think that these two provisions in the Statute I cited may answer your question:

(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.
Wait....so moving minor illegal alien teenagers to parts unknown into the interior of the country after having been captured at the border is legal, um, how, again?
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What bewilders me is that anyone, regardless of party, would want to allow a non-citizen to vote.

I can understand sociopathic politicians trying to slide that by, because in the end they don't care about the good of the country, just themselves. But the far left is basically saying that the rest of the world is welcome to vote in our elections. That is like national and cultural suicide. It defies logic.
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What bewilders me is that anyone, regardless of party, would want to allow a non-citizen to vote.

I can understand sociopathic politicians trying to slide that by, because in the end they don't care about the good of the country, just themselves. But the far left is basically saying that the rest of the world is welcome to vote in our elections. That is like national and cultural suicide. It defies logic.
Incorrect. It's Their logic. America have been to great and influential on the world for too long. it's time for the world to have a say in how America is run.

Thats Their logic.
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Incorrect. It's Their logic. America have been to great and influential on the world for too long. it's time for the world to have a say in how America is run.

Thats Their logic.
That does explain a lot.
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That does explain a lot.
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Incorrect. It's Their logic. America have been to great and influential on the world for too long. it's time for the world to have a say in how America is run.

Thats Their logic.
Yup. It's time that white males take a backseat to things. Let Brazilians handle pool maintenance, let Mexicans handle our police force and judiciary system, and that's just for starters. I have lots of other good ideas about how to shift the responsibility of civilization around so that white males are a thing of the past.
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I think they are paid actors. I honestly dont believe she is that brazen to bring illegal aliens to her campaign..
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