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Old 07-25-2021, 8:47pm   #41
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Well, you could use one to clean up the other. Win-Win
Not exactly. You'd need a wet vac or carpet shampooer, not a vacuum.
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Very cool. How do you like the UTAS?
I haven’t had an opportunity to fire it yet but it feels solid. Have a couple of 10 round magazines on the way and thinking a red dot sight might be next? In all honesty, I’ve never used a red dot but they seem pretty straightforward and this particular firearm didn’t come with any aiming means, not even iron sights.
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I haven’t had an opportunity to fire it yet but it feels solid. Have a couple of 10 round magazines on the way and thinking a red dot sight might be next? In all honesty, I’ve never used a red dot but they seem pretty straightforward and this particular firearm didn’t come with any aiming means, not even iron sights.
Wow. 10 rounds. Why do you need such massive bullet holding thingys?
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I haven’t had an opportunity to fire it yet but it feels solid. Have a couple of 10 round magazines on the way and thinking a red dot sight might be next? In all honesty, I’ve never used a red dot but they seem pretty straightforward and this particular firearm didn’t come with any aiming means, not even iron sights.
Why do you need sights on a shotgun?
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Wow. 10 rounds. Why do you need such massive bullet holding thingys?
Actually read my post 36 above!
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Wow. 10 rounds. Why do you need such massive bullet holding thingys?
In case of democrats chimping out.
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Why do you need sights on a shotgun?
If I use slugs for deer or such.
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Very heavy and awkward to shoot. I'd pass on that.
I've shot it you haven't, It's 8 lbs empty.

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TAVOR TS12 SPECS
Barrel Length 18.5″
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Capacity 15+1
Sights Rail Mounted
Action Semi-Automatic
Overall Length 28.34″
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Tavor TS12 compared Kel Tec KSG
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FINAL GRADE : A
MSRP : $1,399.00
Gauge12 GA Weight8 lbs Overall Length28.34″ Height10.23″ Barrel Length18.5″ Capacity15+1


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MSRP : $720.00
Gauge12 GA Weight6.9 lbs Overall Length26.1″ Height10.48″ Barrel Length18.5’’ Capacity14+1
There are lots of reviews and opinions, most place the TS 12 over all other similar shotguns. Since uncle Sam was paying I got the TS12.
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There are lots of reviews and opinions, most place the TS 12 over all other similar shotguns. Since uncle Sam was paying I got the TS12.
I've shot both of those and didn't like them. Just not my thing. I do like my Bullpup chambered in 5.56, though
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I've shot both of those and didn't like them. Just not my thing. I do like my Bullpup chambered in 5.56, though
The only thing I need for the Tavor is a sling. Carrying it single handed by the grip will get tiring after a while. I've never shot a shotgun that eats up the recoil like this one. 15 rounds of buckshot doesn't phase my shoulder at all, and it swings on target so quickly. I don't find it clumsy at all.
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I keep stimulating myself.
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I keep stimulating myself.
And that is why I'll never shake your hand.
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Dang, just bought 50 rounds of double 00 and cost me $80. plus tax.
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Old 07-26-2021, 9:19pm   #54
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Nice Bergara! I really like that hybrid stock, very solid. Is it a 308?
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I haven’t had an opportunity to fire it yet but it feels solid. Have a couple of 10 round magazines on the way and thinking a red dot sight might be next? In all honesty, I’ve never used a red dot but they seem pretty straightforward and this particular firearm didn’t come with any aiming means, not even iron sights.
Much faster shooting, both eyes open.
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Nice Bergara! I really like that hybrid stock, very solid. Is it a 308?
6.5 Creed.

Topped it off with a Trijicon 5x25x50

It's my 1000 yard gun.
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Pellets.

Nice.
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Went back to the gun dealer to look at optics with my FIL and ended up buying two colt M4s. One for me one for my FIL. Apparently, Colt has renounced it’s American citizenship and these are the last American made ones?

“Colt ends 175 years as an American gunmaker with purchase by Czech firearms company”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...ny/ar-BB1dE6e9

Thinking these ones will be collectible and worst case, an excellent inflation hedge.

Sad to see our Republic suffer this welfare state nonsense but “better to light a candle than curse the darkness.”
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These are all very nice firearms. All y'all need to get out on boat trips immediately
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