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Old 08-22-2021, 6:36pm   #141
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Interesting read. Sure sounds like you don't give two shits in the post above, unless I'm reading it wrong. But you aren't ok with abandoning them.

Maybe you'd like to clarify your position. Pick one.
Yea, I was angry and went a little over the top in that post but tried to clarify later. I hope they find their way home.

That said, I hope you and they, take time to learn some rudimentary history and economics so we can increase our chances of avoiding another Afghanistan in the future. Darwin is a mofo.
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Yea, I was angry and went a little over the top in that post but tried to clarify later. I hope they find their way home.

That said, I hope you and they, take time to learn some rudimentary history and economics so we can increase our chances of avoiding another Afghanistan in the future. Darwin is a mofo.
It happens. BTDT.

This nonsense started with Nixon...and that not only refers to our FIAT money system, but the opening of the Pandora's Box we call CHINA. His interaction with China in an effort to be a good neighbor should have been limited to, "Hey, if you ever want to drop this whole communism thing, we are a phone call away."...and left it at that. Offer medical aid or natural disaster assistance and nothing more.
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It happens. BTDT.

This nonsense started with Nixon...and that not only refers to our FIAT money system, but the opening of the Pandora's Box we call CHINA. His interaction with China in an effort to be a good neighbor should have been limited to, "Hey, if you ever want to drop this whole communism thing, we are a phone call away."...and left it at that. Offer medical aid or natural disaster assistance and nothing more.
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Between JP and Angry Cops, I'm surprised I get off of streaming at all. Dudes are hilarious
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This nonsense started with Nixon...and that not only refers to our FIAT money system, but the opening of the Pandora's Box we call CHINA. His interaction with China in an effort to be a good neighbor should have been limited to, "Hey, if you ever want to drop this whole communism thing, we are a phone call away."...and left it at that. Offer medical aid or natural disaster assistance and nothing more.


Dick really ****ed us.
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Triangular Diplomacy. Here we go again
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Question.
As a US taxpayer, is it my responsibility to pay for these peoples' plane tickets?
I should hope not.
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Where have you been?

Your Uncle Joe has had his hand in your wallet since he took office Dumbass
Uhhh, I think a lot of 1%r's have.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/served-af...100000389.html

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.

I know because I was there. Twice. On special operations task forces. I learned Pashto as a U.S. Marine captain and spoke to everyone I could there: everyday people, elites, allies and yes, even the Taliban.

The truth is that the Afghan National Security Forces was a jobs program for Afghans, propped up by U.S. taxpayer dollars — a military jobs program populated by nonmilitary people or “paper” forces (that didn’t really exist) and a bevy of elites grabbing what they could when they could.

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Uhhh, I think a lot of 1%r's have.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/served-af...100000389.html

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.

I know because I was there. Twice. On special operations task forces. I learned Pashto as a U.S. Marine captain and spoke to everyone I could there: everyday people, elites, allies and yes, even the Taliban.

The truth is that the Afghan National Security Forces was a jobs program for Afghans, propped up by U.S. taxpayer dollars — a military jobs program populated by nonmilitary people or “paper” forces (that didn’t really exist) and a bevy of elites grabbing what they could when they could.

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Guess what Monkey you dont pull out The Troops first.
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Uhhh, I think a lot of 1%r's have.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/served-af...100000389.html

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.

I know because I was there. Twice. On special operations task forces. I learned Pashto as a U.S. Marine captain and spoke to everyone I could there: everyday people, elites, allies and yes, even the Taliban.

The truth is that the Afghan National Security Forces was a jobs program for Afghans, propped up by U.S. taxpayer dollars — a military jobs program populated by nonmilitary people or “paper” forces (that didn’t really exist) and a bevy of elites grabbing what they could when they could.

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For the most part, what you quoted seems true. To the general point, we were never going to export First World democracy to 6th century Muslim savages. I think most here can agree, at least agree now, that nation building in the ME is a fool's errand. If you were a W Bush voter, I hope you're satisfied. We got spying on steroids with the Patriot Act, profligate spending, and now, we've not only got nothing to show (beyond taking out Bin Ladin) for our efforts in Afghanistan, we're being humiliated on the world stage, as even the illiterate, inbred Taliban mock us, as they should.

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Guess what Monkey you dont pull out The Troops first.
For another animal metaphor, you get your ducks in a row first, meaning, you get the Americans out, and you get the fully vetted natives that you wish to save out.....and since they're Muslim, you make arrangements for them to land and resettle in a MUSLIM country.....anywhere but the United States. We don't need more little Mogadishus; we certainly don't need any more America hating Congress critters, destroying America from the inside.
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So Obama,Xiden and The Taxpayers Funded Terrorists and returned their top generals who are now leading them.Defend that Monkey
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So Obama,Xiden and The Taxpayers Funded Terrorists and returned their top generals who are now leading them.Defend that Monkey
Your name sure ain't Swifty for nothing.
You're migty swift to twist and deflect everything that I post.
I guess this is the last time I answer one of your idiodic posts.
Even the lowest of the low here get responses from me, not that they're any lower than me..
Oh, btw, when are you going to answer my post requesting proof of your supposed election fraud ??
Never ? Ya, I thought so...

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Joe Biden at Camp David during the crises.
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We should have nuked the whole friggen country.
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We should have nuked the whole friggen country.
That's essentially what I said on FB, and for some reason it did not meet community standards.

Technically, I said "Bomb the ever-lovin' shit out of them" but po-tay-to po-tah-to.

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That's essentially what I said on FB, and for some reason it did not meet community standards.

Technically, I said "Bomb the ever-lovin' shit out of them" but po-tay-to po-tah-to.

My Father, who actually saw a nuke go of, wanted the USA to turn Afghanistan into a glass encrusted memorial for the victims of 9/11.
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My Father, who actually saw a nuke go of, wanted the USA to turn Afghanistan into a glass encrusted memorial for the victims of 9/11.
I wanted the same thing. I wanted the same thing for the KSA. No one wants to acknowledge that they should be at least in the top three enemies of the US.
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