Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses !

[Onebadcad]

I just pulled my primary home's 2023 property tax bill.
In the non-ad valorem section I have four line items, that total $957.
One of the four line items is city stormwater at $27.
Another of the four is from the water district, labelled drainage at $292.

So looks like my city is already all over this, charging me $319/year for something I believe should be managed solely by the city and paid from the $1,800 they took from me on the property tax bill in 2023.

I would like to attend a city commission meeting, but have been told by the wifey she will not bail me out of jail,,,

[04 commemorative]

yikes if my taxes were $1,800.00 I would gladly pay the stupid tax.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by 04 commemorative

yikes if my taxes were $1,800.00 I would gladly pay the stupid tax.

Those were only the items I highlighted for the thread material.
My taxes are over $7,000.
Similar homes in the hood are over $12,000.
Mine is lower than those who bought recently due to having Homestead Exemption since I purchased in 2000.
Not only does Homestead Exemption provide a $50K reduction off assessed value, it also caps the assessed value increase at 3.00% each year--called Florida Save Our Homes, which is supposed to the lesser of 3,00% or the CPI.

With that said, these losers in gov will increase millage rates as high as they want, and increase line item non-ad valorems, while adding new line item non-ad valorems.

The state Homestead Exemption is great, but does nothing from stopping the counties, school board and your town mafia tactics.

[Newby]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

I just pulled my primary home's 2023 property tax bill.
In the non-ad valorem section I have four line items, that total $957.
One of the four line items is city stormwater at $27.
Another of the four is from the water district, labelled drainage at $292.

So looks like my city is already all over this, charging me $319/year for something I believe should be managed solely by the city and paid from the $1,800 they took from me on the property tax bill in 2023.

I would like to attend a city commission meeting, but have been told by the wifey she will not bail me out of jail,,,

Looks like you've been there quite a while, don't ever move.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Newby

Looks like you've been there quite a while, don't ever move.

Actually, in addition to keeping your property taxes low by staying the home, Florida figured out when enacting this that some may never upgrade to a more expensive home, which obvoiusly hurts the economy.

So, we also have Protability, which basically allows you to benefit when moving if you are moving from a Florida Primary Resident.
It is not as good as you would first think, but it saves you enough when you can accept a higher tax bill with your new primary, as it is now a HUGE increase.

I have not moved because I am a cheap bastard, have a small, small mortgage, and get along very well with my next door neighbor.
We meet in my garage 5 - 6 nights a week, I lift weights, he drinks Bud, and we fixed like 2% of the world's problems.

FLORIDA PORTABILITY
If you are moving from a previous Florida homestead
to a new homestead in Florida, you may be able to
transfer, or “port,” all or part of your homestead
assessment difference
If you are eligible, portability allows most Florida
homestead owners to transfer their SOH benefit from
their old homestead to a new homestead, lowering
the tax assessment and, consequently, the taxes for
the new homestead.

If your new home has a higher Just (Market) Value than your prior residence, the portability amount is determined by subtracting the Assessed Value of the former home from its market value. For example, if the market value of your previous home is $300,000, but the assessed value is $200,000, your Save our Homes benefit for portability purposes is $100,000. This benefit of $100,000 will be applied to your new home and reduce the Assessed Value by $100,000.

If your new home has a lower market value, you can transfer a percentage of the difference from your previous property to your new home. Using the Save our Homes benefit of $100,000 from the example above, if your new home has a value of $250,000, the portability is calculated as follows:

Step 1: Previous Save Our Home benefit DIVIDED by Previous Market
$100,000/$300,000 = Cap Ratio of .33
Step 2: Cap Ratio MULTIPLIED by the New Homestead Market Value
.33 X 250,000 = PORT $82,500
For calculation purposes, the Save Our Homes benefit will use the market value and assessed value of the year in which you abandoned the homestead. For example, if you sold your homesteaded property in October of 2019, 2019 would be considered the year in which you abandoned your homestead and the 2019 values would be utilized to determine if any portability exists.

[04 commemorative]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Those were only the items I highlighted for the thread material.
My taxes are over $7,000.
Similar homes in the hood are over $12,000.
Mine is lower than those who bought recently due to having Homestead Exemption since I purchased in 2000.
Not only does Homestead Exemption provide a $50K reduction off assessed value, it also caps the assessed value increase at 3.00% each year--called Florida Save Our Homes, which is supposed to the lesser of 3,00% or the CPI.

With that said, these losers in gov will increase millage rates as high as they want, and increase line item non-ad valorems, while adding new line item non-ad valorems.

The state Homestead Exemption is great, but does nothing from stopping the counties, school board and your town mafia tactics.

https://www.google.com/search?client...IMS60IkYA,st:0

[Newby]

Just (Market) Value
That's the part that will screw you. It's based on their whim.

Staying put is best, if you like it. If you're already in deep, then it matters little.

[DAB]

new name:

Pelosi-Miculski-Steele Bridge

the PMS Bridge, closed monthly for 3 days. dates TBD.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Newby

Just (Market) Value
That's the part that will screw you. It's based on their whim.

Staying put is best, if you like it. If you're already in deep, then it matters little.

Market Value is a non-factor mostly, it is used when a sale takes place and the sale amount is below market value; usually done as arms-length between family, friends and those looking to screw the county and city on the tax bill.
I believe this is the only reason to assign each property with a market value, as the county will use that amount for taxes, not the sales price.
Usually, if sales appears normal, you will be assessed up to 90% of the sales price.

The assessed value is multipled by the millage rates of each taxing authority to total your Ad Valorem tax bill.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by DAB

new name:

Pelosi-Miculski-Steele Bridge

the PMS Bridge, closed monthly for 3 days. dates TBD.

I would bet chuckie, peeloser, both md senators, all md congresscrooks, the governor, a few select state politicians, the baltimore mayor and the entire city council will ALL be ordering new lexuses by week's end.

[Newby]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Market Value is a non-factor mostly, it is used when a sale takes place and the sale amount is below market value; usually done as arms-length between family, friends and those looking to screw the county and city on the tax bill.
I believe this is the only reason to assign each property with a market value, as the county will use that amount for taxes, not the sales price.
Usually, if sales appears normal, you will be assessed up to 90% of the sales price.

The assessed value is multipled by the millage rates of each taxing authority to total your Ad Valorem tax bill.

They can and do pull that Just (Market) Value out of a hat.
Don't believe their BS.

[Raazor]

Originally Posted by 04 commemorative

yikes if my taxes were $1,800.00 I would gladly pay the stupid tax.

agreed. pffft... $1,800... I spill that much over a weekend.

[VatorMan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...r/73123627007/

Blame resides with Baltimore harbor authorities as they don’t require lined tug escort to and from port-something the US Navy does.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...r/73123627007/

Blame resides with Baltimore harbor authorities as they don’t require lined tug escort to and from port-something the US Navy does.

Tugs at most harbors worldwide help with docking and undocking. It’s not common practice to stay tied to ships once they’re underway. That’s not the root cause of this. Even the article says they “might” have been able to prevent it.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Tugs at most harbors worldwide help with docking and undocking. It’s not common practice to stay tied to ships once they’re underway. That’s not the root cause of this. Even the article says they “might” have been able to prevent it.

You provide tugs based on the weight of the ship. Are you saying 4-6 tugs couldn’t have changed the ships course ?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

You provide tugs based on the weight of the ship. Are you saying 4-6 tugs couldn’t have changed the ships course ?

I can’t opine on how many tugs could stop or turn a 90,000 ton ship going 9 mph in less than a minute. That’s a whole lot of mass to stop quickly. I do know that tugs don’t usually stay tied to a large ship once it’s underway in the channel.

[ZipZap]

I watch San Diego port pretty regularly. For USN ships, they have escorts, not tugs, to get out of the bay. Commercial vessels have no help when under their own power.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

I can’t opine on how many tugs could stop or turn a 90,000 ton ship going 9 mph in less than a minute. That’s a whole lot of mass to stop quickly. I do know that tugs don’t usually stay tied to a large ship once it’s underway in the channel.

The only way that works is if the tugs are providing power and the boat is a barge. $2 more for each Amazon delivery.

The 12-24 month thing today from NTSB was total BS. I don't need to wait for the bridge engineer's report on how to make sure this does not happen again to see WTF happened on the boat. They may already know.

[John Wiz]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

I can’t opine on how many tugs could stop or turn a 90,000 ton ship going 9 mph in less than a minute. That’s a whole lot of mass to stop quickly. I do know that tugs don’t usually stay tied to a large ship once it’s underway in the channel.

The tugs would not have to stop it, they would only have to keep it in the center of the channel and guide it clear of the bridge.

[Newby]

Originally Posted by John Wiz

The tugs would not have to stop it, they would only have to keep it in the center of the channel and guide it clear of the bridge.

at 0126:39 - the pilot made a general VHF call for tug assistance.

There were 2 local pilots on board
The collision sounds began at 0129:00 and continued until 0129:33