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Old 05-04-2018, 9:17am   #1
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bak Official 'They Killed the Boy Scouts' Thread

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I realize participation in scouting has declined over the years, but this seems a lot like "we have to kill the patient to save it."

I'd say the reason scouting is on the decline is the increasing number of leftists, feminists, communists, socialists, and other groups who abhor traditional, wholesome, instruction of our youth.

It's further proof that many of those groups have been co-opted by actual communists. JFK liberals had their kids in scouting, and didn't see the skills taught, and the self reliant "be prepared," message of empowerment as somehow threatening.

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So.......how do you really feel about it ?
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nothing stopping a dad or mom from teaching their son or daughter various life skills.
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Nothing stopping a dad or mom from teaching their son or daughter various life skills.
True, but scouting has an actual physical infrastructure that has apparently been captured by the SJW's. They have prime real estate, existing programs and structure,history, respect, and everyone's favorite intangible, goodwill.

If it's so all gosh darned important for girls to be able to become Eagle Scouts, I'm sure such a pathway could be designed and implemented by....the Girl Scouts.

Heck, I'm not even opposed to having activity mingles with the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts. If two troops want to do the same activity on the same day, great! That's not what this is though. This is something less wholesome, and very insidious.
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So.......how do you really feel about it ?
"No, I don't like it. Not one little bit."

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Just more pussification of America. Once they had to allow the queers in I saw the writing on the wall.

My two kids went through Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and both made Eagle. I was a merit badge counselor for boating and shooting. My wife was a counselor also.

The Boy Scouts as I knew it is dying FAST. Just another tradition the liberals are ****ing up. A very large, nice, long time scout camp up by me is now not viable due to lack of participation and for sale. They have a couple serious bidders and by Monday a good chance it will be sold. 300 very nice acres along side a large creek.
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similar things have happened to various church denominations over the last 50 or so years. infected by liberals, and now just shells of what they used to be.
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This is truly sad.

The libs have killed an American institution.

Ultimately their motivation was simply more division. Nothing more, nothing less.

This time it was traditional values vs progressive bullshit.

Other divisions they use are black vs white, brown vs white, religious vs atheist, rich vs poor, etc.

Divide and conquer. Straight out of Alinsky.

Sad!


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This is truly sad.

The libs have killed an American institution.

Ultimately their motivation was simply more division. Nothing more, nothing less.

This time it was traditional values vs progressive bullshit.

Other divisions they use are black vs white, brown vs white, religious vs atheist, rich vs poor, etc.

Divide and conquer. Straight out of Alinsky.

Sad!


Sure wish I could argue against you on every point, but at last, you are 100% correct. The country we grew up in is going down the shitter in a hurry.
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If there is really that much demand for an Eagle Scout for girls, why doesn't the Girl Scouts add that?
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Sure wish I could argue against you on every point, but at last, you are 100% correct. The country we grew up in is going down the shitter in a hurry.
*alas

Unless of course, you're saying that Clark has never been right before...
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If there is really that much demand for an Eagle Scout for girls, why doesn't the Girl Scouts add that?
Their program has different designs and focuses and it's built entirely differently.

For all the folks complaining in here, how many of you are actually involved in the scouting movement?
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The reality is that the changes to the program are because people are asking for it. I had two younger sisters that would have been much more interested in the BSA program than the Girl Scouts. They did Girl Scouts, but lost interest because of this.
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The reality is that the changes to the program are because people are asking for it. I had two younger sisters that would have been much more interested in the BSA program than the Girl Scouts. They did Girl Scouts, but lost interest because of this.
So, instead of the Girl Scouts changing with the times and offering content of interest to today's modern girl, let's destroy a beloved institution like the Boy Scouts instead. The Boy Scouts could have offered program material, facilities rental, etc., to help Girl Scout troops with interest to pursue disciplines promulgated by the Boy Scouts. As stated, I don't even see an issue with some joint activities by both groups.

If you sisters could have had some content overlap, like hiking, archery, or whatever, would they have lost interest in the Girl Scouts?

Full disclosure: Was a scout, no kids, so not involved now.
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no kids, was never a scout, or even interested in being a scout.

before we met, Mrs. DAB's daughter was in a GS troup that Mrs. DAB ran. from what i'm told, the girls had a great time. until HQ found out that she was running a troup of about 40 girls - by herself. they split it up a bit.
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For all the folks complaining in here, how many of you are actually involved in the scouting movement?
I was a Cub Scout, Webelos Scout and a Boy Scout.

So does my opinion matter?














Ackshully even if I hadn't been involved... would my opinion would still have mattered?

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So, instead of the Girl Scouts changing with the times and offering content of interest to today's modern girl, let's destroy a beloved institution like the Boy Scouts instead. The Boy Scouts could have offered program material, facilities rental, etc., to help Girl Scout troops with interest to pursue disciplines promulgated by the Boy Scouts. As stated, I don't even see an issue with some joint activities by both groups.

If you sisters could have had some content overlap, like hiking, archery, or whatever, would they have lost interest in the Girl Scouts?

Full disclosure: Was a scout, no kids, so not involved now.
I'm not seeing this as the destruction of a beloved institution. Women have been involved with scouting for a long time. Even at the beloved Philmont, women have been rangers for close to 50 years.
https://www.outsideonline.com/230069...d-girl-rangers

I think this graphic will help people understand what's changing, and how much isn't changing.



I'm not sure why the Girl Scouts don't change. That's their prerogative.

The issue why my sisters lost interest wasn't due to activities, it was fundamental program design. They saw my brother and I get opportunities for leadership development that just aren't available in the Girl Scouts (and wouldn't be available unless they did an entire restructure). That really separates the two programs, and isn't an easily fixable option.
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How long have the Boy Scouts needed an administrative position like this:



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