No Obamacare ~ God will protect you

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Like I said, I am done with the political argument but from a personal side... you really need to let that go. I don't know what happened over there (and don't really care) but damn man. You bring it up in every thread!

I believe Will to be a (tedious) manic depressive ... he goes into outbursts over the slightest things .. he's done it here on OT several times now where he's pissed off some of the members ...

I'm a little more tolerant because with further study I beleive he can make *compromises* based on his case studies ... if not, then he needs to be disciplined ... this is how one pursues fileds of study ... proving yourself wrong before declaring yourself *it* ... this is how one impresses his colleagues and makes the grade ... at his level it's called *dissertation*

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Define Socialism...

No, Exotix... I am not name calling or resorting to that kind of crap but even you have to admit that the above statement is pretty much the entire basis of Socialism.

so auto insurance is socialism? damn....the things you learn on the internet. you guys have overused this term so much it has lost it's shock value.

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by Broken Wind

Bashing and openly calling for his slow and painful death are two different things, studmuffin.

ok,sorry I was so callous when talking about a fat,racist,junkie pig of a man.I didn't realize he meant so much to ya..... I just want his kidneys to fail.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

so auto insurance is socialism? damn....the things you learn on the internet. you guys have overused this term so much it has lost it's shock value.

I said I was going to stay out of this... but wow. Just wow.

Who the hell ever said auto insurance was socialist? If you are saying that I did, please show me where. Stop trying to make an argument where there isn't one.

...although that is pretty much how you operate. You twist what somebody says, and then argue with it. I'm actually impressed that you actually made a post without the word teabagger in it somewhere. You talk about losing shock value... you guys can't go more than a few posts without insulting Palin or the Tea Party, EVEN WHEN THEY AREN'T EVEN RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC! You don't discuss facts. You don't debate ideals. you insult those who don't agree with you and then congratulate yourself like you accomplished something and proved something.

I have given multiple reasons why the comments comparing health insurance to auto insurance were wrong. The only thing even remotely resembling a counter point was the comment by Chas about it affecting others (although indirectly as opposed to the direct affect of auto). The rest is argument with absolutely zero substance.

Pay attention. I'm the one saying that health care and auto insurance are NOT related. But hey... don't let the facts stand in the way of your backwards ass argument. I didn't say anything about being a socialist for shock value.

-Even by your pal Exotix definition, socialism is "a psuedo-govt. regulated economy."

-Our President continuously pushes for more and more regulation... more regulation than this country has ever seen. (if you deny that you are an idiot)

It isn't hard to figure out why the word gets used when describing him. It isn't some blanket insult word (like the many you have for those who disagree with you). It is a direct observation of his policies and what he pushes for.

People who agree with these agendas getting defensive at the word socialist is the equivalent of the guy who stabs somebody getting defensive about the word murderer.

Now... I'm out. I just can't comprehend how you feel that the government telling us more and more what to do and how to do it is a good thing. It absolutely baffles me. I guess a whole lot of other people over the course of history have felt that way too.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I said I was going to stay out of this... but wow. Just wow.

Who the hell ever said auto insurance was socialist? If you are saying that I did, please show me where. Stop trying to make an argument where there isn't one.

...although that is pretty much how you operate. You twist what somebody says, and then argue with it. I'm actually impressed that you actually made a post without the word teabagger in it somewhere. You talk about losing shock value... you guys can't go more than a few posts without insulting Palin or the Tea Party, EVEN WHEN THEY AREN'T EVEN RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC! You don't discuss facts. You don't debate ideals. you insult those who don't agree with you and then congratulate yourself like you accomplished something and proved something.

I have given multiple reasons why the comments comparing health insurance to auto insurance were wrong. The only thing even remotely resembling a counter point was the comment by Chas about it affecting others (although indirectly as opposed to the direct affect of auto). The rest is argument with absolutely zero substance.

Pay attention. I'm the one saying that health care and auto insurance are NOT related. But hey... don't let the facts stand in the way of your backwards ass argument. I didn't say anything about being a socialist for shock value.

-Even by your pal Exotix definition, socialism is "a psuedo-govt. regulated economy."

-Our President continuously pushes for more and more regulation... more regulation than this country has ever seen. (if you deny that you are an idiot)

It isn't hard to figure out why the word gets used when describing him. It isn't some blanket insult word (like the many you have for those who disagree with you). It is a direct observation of his policies and what he pushes for.

People who agree with these agendas getting defensive at the word socialist is the equivalent of the guy who stabs somebody getting defensive about the word murderer.

Now... I'm out. I just can't comprehend how you feel that the government telling us more and more what to do and how to do it is a good thing. It absolutely baffles me. I guess a whole lot of other people over the course of history have felt that way too.

He's yawning because you're broadbrushing the entire endeavor(s) or macro ... when presented with micro(isims) which are fact supported ... you change the facts or present your own facts or make up your own facts or are deluded to the facts ... further you continue to delude the facts based on the previous deluded facts ...

Rumsfeld is tops at this right now ... Santorum comes in 2nd for today with his rant on muslims ... Gaddahfi is the international winner declaring Osama Bin Laden and drugs are the reason for the Libyan revolt ...

personally ... it's a lot of fun carrying on conservations with right-wingers ... when I'm not ...

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

He's yawning because you're broadbrushing the entire endeavor(s) or macro ... when presented with micro(isims) which are fact supported ... you change the facts or present your own facts or make up your own facts or are deluded to the facts ... further you continue to delude the facts based on the previous deluded facts ...

Rumsfeld is tops at this right now ... Santorum comes in 2nd for today with his rant on muslims ... Gaddahfi is the international winner declaring Osama Bin Laden and drugs are the reason for the Libyan revolt ...

personally ... it's a lot of fun carrying on conservations with right-wingers ... when I'm not ...

I'm far ... from a grammar Nazi ... but trying...

to figure out what ... the hell you are ... saying make(s) me want ... to smash my face on the... keyboard.

I think I see something in there about me making up facts or something along those lines. Please enlighten me. What facts have I made up?

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I said I was going to stay out of this... but wow. Just wow.

Who the hell ever said auto insurance was socialist? If you are saying that I did, please show me where. Stop trying to make an argument where there isn't one.

...although that is pretty much how you operate. You twist what somebody says, and then argue with it. I'm actually impressed that you actually made a post without the word teabagger in it somewhere. You talk about losing shock value... you guys can't go more than a few posts without insulting Palin or the Tea Party, EVEN WHEN THEY AREN'T EVEN RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC! You don't discuss facts. You don't debate ideals. you insult those who don't agree with you and then congratulate yourself like you accomplished something and proved something.

I have given multiple reasons why the comments comparing health insurance to auto insurance were wrong. The only thing even remotely resembling a counter point was the comment by Chas about it affecting others (although indirectly as opposed to the direct affect of auto). The rest is argument with absolutely zero substance.

Pay attention. I'm the one saying that health care and auto insurance are NOT related. But hey... don't let the facts stand in the way of your backwards ass argument. I didn't say anything about being a socialist for shock value.

-Even by your pal Exotix definition, socialism is "a psuedo-govt. regulated economy."

-Our President continuously pushes for more and more regulation... more regulation than this country has ever seen. (if you deny that you are an idiot)

It isn't hard to figure out why the word gets used when describing him. It isn't some blanket insult word (like the many you have for those who disagree with you). It is a direct observation of his policies and what he pushes for.

People who agree with these agendas getting defensive at the word socialist is the equivalent of the guy who stabs somebody getting defensive about the word murderer.

Now... I'm out. I just can't comprehend how you feel that the government telling us more and more what to do and how to do it is a good thing. It absolutely baffles me. I guess a whole lot of other people over the course of history have felt that way too.

you brought up the "s" word,not me. in case you didn't know, it's the government's job to protect the people. if that means making health care affordable to all when millions of families desperately need it,so be it. the private sector has royally ****ed it up & it's time for government to step in & do it's job.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

you brought up the "s" word,not me. in case you didn't know, it's the government's job to protect the people. if that means making health care affordable to all when millions of families desperately need it,so be it. the private sector has royally ****ed it up & it's time for government to step in & do it's job.

I did bring it up, but not for shock value. I brought it up because government run industry is a socialist ideal, plain and simple. I am not using it as an insult.

... I am all for health care reform. You're right in the fact that it is screwed up. I am not all for the way that Obamacare does it. There are ways to regulate without taking total control.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I did bring it up, but not for shock value. I brought it up because government run industry is a socialist ideal, plain and simple. I am not using it as an insult.

... I am all for health care reform. You're right in the fact that it is screwed up. I am not all for the way that Obamacare does it. There are ways to regulate without taking total control.

You simply need to point out exacting places in Obamacare that are socialist in terms of the end of America right-wing fear platform as suggested in your *broadbrush* first sentence ...

.. or am I freako rosetta stone mrvette lib as a Will-typical copout because you don't know what I'm talking about ?

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I did bring it up, but not for shock value. I brought it up because government run industry is a socialist ideal, plain and simple. I am not using it as an insult.

... I am all for health care reform. You're right in the fact that it is screwed up. I am not all for the way that Obamacare does it. There are ways to regulate without taking total control.

saying that every other industrialized nation that has health care is socialist is a bit of a stretch. is Medicare "socialist?" is SSI? the industry should have policed itself, but it didn't. it's always "profits before people" & people are dying & going bankrupt for greed. it's time for drastic measures, ESPECIALLY since health care is such an economic issue & the economy deserves all we can give it at this time.

[RetiredSFC 97]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Can't do that, Bus Driver has Insurance.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

You simply need to point out exacting places in Obamacare that are socialist in terms of the end of America right-wing fear platform as suggested in your *broadbrush* first sentence ...

.. or am I freako rosetta stone mrvette lib as a Will typical copout ?

When you stop using generic terms like "end of America right-wing fear platform" as your arguments and are capable of a non-insult laced, non-generalizing reply I will gladly have a discussion in detail. Until then it is a waste of time and effort to type it out. I already know what your reply will be.

You tell me that I need to point out details yet every one of your arguments is not much more than a generalized bash on Republicans.

[RetiredSFC 97]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

you brought up the "s" word,not me. in case you didn't know, it's the government's job to protect the people. if that means making health care affordable to all when millions of families desperately need it,so be it. the private sector has royally ****ed it up & it's time for government to step in & do it's job.

My friend, you just described socialism. And actually it was the dems who ****ed up HC

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97

My friend, you just described socialism. And actually it was the dems who ****ed up HC

your shock word doesn't scare anyone anymore. your partisan BS doesn't do anything but make me want to the dems didn't make $2,000 a minute while raising premiums & denying coverage to sick people.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

When you stop using generic terms like "end of America right-wing fear platform" as your arguments and are capable of a non-insult laced, non-generalizing reply I will gladly have a discussion in detail. Until then it is a waste of time and effort to type it out. I already know what your reply will be.

You tell me that I need to point out details yet every one of your arguments is not much more than a generalized bash on Republicans.

Fine ... when I stated *psuedo-govt. (controlled) economies* that was a broadbrush and an invitation and chance to shine ... and show us all the great command you have on what *socialism is ... is* ...

Allow me to help you out ... at the bottom is a list of *recognized economic systems* ... looks like about 50 or 60 .. this is important for me because Edison Trent from CFPR&C and I used to have lengthy conversations on these ... all without bashing each other based on prejudice and we conducted ourselves with professional respect for each others *ethos*... that is, the underlying sentiments that informs the beliefs ...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system

[Z06PDQ]

I just love people that call Obama a socialist. the DOW has been jumping through it's ass [up until a few days ago] & Wall Street is posting record bonuses. most companies [like my Fortune500 100 + yr. old giant] posted record profits in a "recession." socialism? hell gimme some more of that.

[MrPeabody]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

I just love people that call Obama a socialist. the DOW has been jumping through it's ass [up until a few days ago] & Wall Street is posting record bonuses. most companies [like my Fortune500 100 + yr. old giant] posted record profits in a "recession." socialism? hell gimme some more of that.

It's Neosocialism.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

I just love people that call Obama a socialist. the DOW has been jumping through it's ass [up until a few days ago] & Wall Street is posting record bonuses. most companies [like my Fortune500 100 + yr. old giant] posted record profits in a "recession." socialism? hell gimme some more of that.

That sure as hell doesn't sound like a system of *Austerity* .. you know .. communists ... the GOP wants to take us back too ... well, the corps do so I guess that makes sense ...

[RetiredSFC 97]

Have fun jerking each other off fellas. Watch that stuff, it may get on your chin.

I can honestly say I have never ran into such ignorance in my life.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97

Have fun jerking each other off fellas. Watch that stuff, it may get on your chin.

I can honestly say I have never ran into such ignorance in my life.

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