Glad it wasn't the Porch - Page 15

Yadkin · 03-24-2024, 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

This is the second pretty significant hit on this new truck. IMO, some vehicles are 'cursed' or 'marked' from new just to be magnets for other vehicles and falling objects. I had a couple of co-workers that way. One had a new Corolla that he could not keep from getting hit....the last time the illegal that hit him actually tore the engine out of his Nissan pickup. The Toyota was rebuilt, but never the same. And my co-worker was injured pretty badly. The other guy bought a new Ranger to replace his faithful '91 Ranger, and it got hit so hard at 20k miles it needed a new bed and frame. Then, about a year later, same thing. It's on it's third bed and frame at about 80k miles. He just sold his '91 with about 585,000 miles on it, original paint (no clearcoat to peel so it still looked good) and no dents (never been hit) for $3500 to a Mexican who took it south.
His '91 was a nicer truck than the 'new' one that had been pieced together several times and hit a bunch.
Just saying, some cars seem to go through a long life unscathed, while others are destined to be magnets for other cars, falling rocks, or fast moving shopping carts.

I look at it as a trade off. The Ranger will take the hits, while the Porch, TBird and Spider remain unscathed.

LATB · 03-24-2024, 1:10pm

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Originally Posted by Bruze

Just out of curiosity, what would an early '90s Toyota 4WD truck be worth retail, bought and driven only in CA (til this year) with 80-some K miles on it, good mechanically, has new brakes? My buddy has one and is selling it.

One of the local garage owners said they are very hot now.

I have seen excellent examples listed for 20 grand.

GTOguy · 03-24-2024, 2:36pm

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Originally Posted by Bruze

Just out of curiosity, what would an early '90s Toyota 4WD truck be worth retail, bought and driven only in CA (til this year) with 80-some K miles on it, good mechanically, has new brakes? My buddy has one and is selling it.

One of the local garage owners said they are very hot now.

80k miles and no rust? Probably 15-20k. 5 years ago about a 7k truck. These things don't even start to show wear until about 250k miles and usually go close to twice that before major stuff goes wrong. Overbuilt and understressed, unlike today's turbo tiny-engined trucks, which are just the opposite.

LATB · 03-24-2024, 3:27pm

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

80k miles and no rust? Probably 15-20k. 5 years ago about a 7k truck. These things don't even start to show wear until about 250k miles and usually go close to twice that before major stuff goes wrong. Overbuilt and understressed, unlike today's turbo tiny-engined trucks, which are just the opposite.

Yep. Pretty sure my 2021 F250 will be in the landfill before those old Toyota trucks from the 1980's/90's are dead.

GTOguy · 03-24-2024, 3:44pm

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Originally Posted by LATB

Yep. Pretty sure my 2021 F250 will be in the landfill before those old Toyota trucks from the 1980's/90's are dead.

LOL...so will we, my friend. So will we.

Bruze · 03-24-2024, 11:54pm

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

80k miles and no rust? Probably 15-20k. 5 years ago about a 7k truck. These things don't even start to show wear until about 250k miles and usually go close to twice that before major stuff goes wrong. Overbuilt and understressed, unlike today's turbo tiny-engined trucks, which are just the opposite.

I've had 3 Toyota pickups since 1991, all bought new. Never put more than 30-35k miles on any of them, that took 5-6 years, by then I'm tired of the vehicle and want a new one. The trade-in values of them was WAY WAY more than anything I've ever owned. I signed the paper very quickly before they changed their minds. The last time I traded a Chevy truck in, they didn't even really want it. Their offer was an insult.

I would have bought another Tacoma in 2022, but the salesman was such an asshole that I walked out, and traded my '17 Tacoma for the '23 Mazda CX5 I have now.

Ha, yes, nearly all new vehicles have tiny displacement, turbo-stressed engines. It's not the auto makers doing it willingly, it's the government -- forcing them to comply with all the MPG and safety standards, which will soon be impossible to comply with.

Yadkin · 03-25-2024, 7:17am

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

80k miles and no rust? Probably 15-20k. 5 years ago about a 7k truck. These things don't even start to show wear until about 250k miles and usually go close to twice that before major stuff goes wrong. Overbuilt and understressed, unlike today's turbo tiny-engined trucks, which are just the opposite.

You think that Ford just added a turbo to a regular 2.3L engine and called it good? Or did they design it for the power that it actually produces?

Yadkin · 03-26-2024, 1:38pm

As I figured Home Depot' s insurance won't pay for the damage. "Act of God."

I got two quotes for paintless dent repair. One 30 miles away, he'll need to keep the truck for a week, $3100.

A second, a lot closer, he'll need the truck for about two days, a cash deal would be $1500. He gets the job.

GTOguy · 03-26-2024, 2:08pm

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Originally Posted by Yadkin

You think that Ford just added a turbo to a regular 2.3L engine and called it good? Or did they design it for the power that it actually produces?

Of course not, Son. I was working on SVO Mustangs and Turbo T birds when you were still driving a bus for the MTA and going to school. BTDT and got the shirt.

Yadkin · 03-26-2024, 2:12pm

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

Of course not, Son. I was working on SVO Mustangs and Turbo T birds when you were still driving a bus for the MTA and going to school. BTDT and got the shirt.

So you should know, Sage, that Ford designed the engines for the power output, therefore they are not 'over-stressed'.

GTOguy · 03-26-2024, 2:38pm

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Originally Posted by Yadkin

So you should know, Sage, that Ford designed the engines for the power output, therefore they are not 'over-stressed'.

Please point out, Good Sir, where I stated that Ford engines were under-built and over-stressed. (In this thread).

I suspect there is some sort of mis-comyadication.

LATB · 03-26-2024, 3:02pm

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Originally Posted by Yadkin

As I figured Home Depot' s insurance won't pay for the damage. "Act of God."

I got two quotes for paintless dent repair. One 30 miles away, he'll need to keep the truck for a week, $3100.

A second, a lot closer, he'll need the truck for about two days, a cash deal would be $1500. He gets the job.

Damn. Have you had your insurance company quote it?

Yadkin · 03-26-2024, 4:00pm

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

Please point out, Good Sir, where I stated that Ford engines were under-built and over-stressed. (In this thread).

I suspect there is some sort of mis-comyadication.

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

...These things don't even start to show wear until about 250k miles and usually go close to twice that before major stuff goes wrong. Overbuilt and understressed, unlike today's turbo tiny-engined trucks, which are just the opposite.

Yadkin · 03-26-2024, 4:03pm

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Originally Posted by LATB

Damn. Have you had your insurance company quote it?

No and I don't plan on doing that. My deductible is $1000, and I don't want to risk having my premium increase since this is the second accident in less than two years. Even though the last time, the other guy's insurer paid the entire bill.

GTOguy · 03-26-2024, 4:23pm

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Originally Posted by Yadkin

I was generalizing. Not specifying Ford, which has been doing Turbo 2.3 engines for the past 40 years. We'll see how the latest ecoboost stuff fares over time.

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Yadkin · 03-26-2024, 5:42pm

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Originally Posted by GTOguy

I was generalizing. Not specifying Ford, which has been doing Turbo 2.3 engines for the past 40 years. We'll see how the latest ecoboost stuff fares over time.

EcoBoost® is a Ford trademark.