Hotrod C3 '89 truck block 350

[mrvette]

OK from a previous thread, I filled the entire oil sump with water, when I thought it was ready to go last week......and so BOTH heads off to the head shop for some psychy exam.......

short block on stand now....pan off bottom......water pump sealed on short block front.....so going to take lower hose, and hold up high, and fill with water, and see if any dripping/FLOW from lower OIL areas of engine....full up to top of water passages......how legit a test you all think this is???

figger leave it overnight to check pan in the AM.....

[DJ_Critterus]

What did Stan, Gene, or Bob at AP&M have to say?

[JetMechZ16]

I would have started by not filling the oil sump with water, but that's just me.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

I would have started by not filling the oil sump with water, but that's just me.

This is Gene you are talking about and you have ever seen frankenvette

[JetMechZ16]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

This is Gene you are talking about and you have ever seen frankenvette

Yes I have seen it.

[Steve_R]

Why did you fill the sump with water?

[mrvette]

WELL, the trick IS.....to ID the damn point of failure allowing the OIL SUMP to be filled with WATER/antifreeze when I thought the job was over with.....

so going to fill the water jacket up to head deck height and see if any drainage overnight.......damn expensive these daze to find another short block.....even used, and then the WTF?

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

Yes I have seen it.

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in person?

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

in person?

Not being washed in months now, being cats setting all over it the whole thing is getting to be an issue with me.....age 77 and only good for maybe 3 hours/day at MOST working on it.....

with I could get a Doc to work on my skeleton that much......

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Not being washed in months now, being cats setting all over it the whole thing is getting to be an issue with me.....age 77 and only good for maybe 3 hours/day at MOST working on it.....

with I could get a Doc to work on my skeleton that much......

I can get a veterinarian to help you out, but you'll probably jsut get put down....

[Grey Ghost]

Do they offer magnafluxing at the shop you are using? Or is there any type colored dye you can add to the water to make it easier to see if it is leaking? Even food coloring vs just plain water or something that shows up under a black light.

Remember, once in the car the entire system will be pressurized vs just trying to fill it with water and looking for a leak.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

I would have started by not filling the oil sump with water, but that's just me.

Exactly. That's what Brawndo is for. It's got what engines need!

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

Do they offer magnafluxing at the shop you are using? Or is there any type colored dye you can add to the water to make it easier to see if it is leaking? Even food coloring vs just plain water or something that shows up under a black light.

Remember, once in the car the entire system will be pressurized vs just trying to fill it with water and looking for a leak.

This is the shop where my dad works and they do offer magna flux. The expensive part is paying to put the parts in the boiler to clean all the grime and crap off of them.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

This is the shop where my dad works and they do offer magna flux. The expensive part is paying to put the parts in the boiler to clean all the grime and crap off of them.

Do you know Oscar at OP cyl head?? turns out some 20 years ago I got those heads worked over by his Father's place...Dover cyl head??

at any rate I going to your Dad's place this AM to pick up the heads, two of them this time round......and hopefully this weekend some flooring tile will be moved from the garage, so I can move shit around to make room to get the short block outta the garage and into a pickup and take it to your Dad's place.....I"m still going to try my own setup here, but I need to tape off some water jacket holes on lower edge of block where cyl heads go.....forcing water higher in the water jacket, and see if any dripping out the open bottom end....if it does, then I know the block is trash, and I be in market for a new short block.....lovely.....need to be a roller block too boot...so L98 at oldest...LT be better......

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Do you know Oscar at OP cyl head?? turns out some 20 years ago I got those heads worked over by his Father's place...Dover cyl head??

at any rate I going to your Dad's place this AM to pick up the heads, two of them this time round......and hopefully this weekend some flooring tile will be moved from the garage, so I can move shit around to make room to get the short block outta the garage and into a pickup and take it to your Dad's place.....I"m still going to try my own setup here, but I need to tape off some water jacket holes on lower edge of block where cyl heads go.....forcing water higher in the water jacket, and see if any dripping out the open bottom end....if it does, then I know the block is trash, and I be in market for a new short block.....lovely.....need to be a roller block too boot...so L98 at oldest...LT be better......

Have you looked at the shop? I'm sure they have the block you need.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Have you looked at the shop? I'm sure they have the block you need.

Nah, not invited back there, and they have a nasty looking brown dawg, Pitbull?? guarding the gate.....so I never been back there.....judging from the stuff visible up front, plenty of more stuff in back.....

[Torqaholic]

Originally Posted by mrvette

... they have a nasty looking brown dawg, Pitbull?? ...

Smart man, dog gets a whiff of cat from you and you're a goner

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Nah, not invited back there, and they have a nasty looking brown dawg, Pitbull?? guarding the gate.....so I never been back there.....judging from the stuff visible up front, plenty of more stuff in back.....

Dina? She will slobber all over you and nothing more. that dog is a ***** unless she's chasing rats or other dogs (not Little Bit who is also there).

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Have you looked at the shop? I'm sure they have the block you need.

Well, I going to fill the block much as possible, and if drainage through watt wood be the oil pan area....it's a scratch......for sure so to do some calls tmrw and find out if they have anything available.....gotta be a roller engine SBC....just not up to much of anything else......damnit......

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Well, I going to fill the block much as possible, and if drainage through watt wood be the oil pan area....it's a scratch......for sure so to do some calls tmrw and find out if they have anything available.....gotta be a roller engine SBC....just not up to much of anything else......damnit......

the T-bucket I had.... the block was made into a roller. Not hard to do or expensive, either.