My niece just posted this

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Kuelblaz

Actually, thats really only true of the western religions; Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Most, if not all of the Eastern religions (Hindism, Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto) are completely accepting of other faiths as they themselves worhsip many gods and deities.

Guess they're hedging their bets ...




Sadly, these days its too easy to believe what you see and hear. In fact, I'd say it's an overwhelming chore to actually form your own opinion based on non-biased factual information.
Of course, with religion it's quite a different story. Most of the important religious tenents require "faith" not proof. An exponentially harder thing to form an opinion on.

I'm no bible scholar and I'm not even convinced of my own religious beliefs, but this one bible verse from Matthew 6.1-4 has resonnated with me for years. It seems more appropriate than ever these days:

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets that they may be praised by others"

I agree with that verse and would say the same is true about people that attack Christians and Christianity.

[78SA]

Originally Posted by mrvette

NO, they were fighting for a way of life against the constant islamic raids and expansions into southern Europe.....it was the islamics at fault....the reaction was to martial up a army enough to slow them down a bit.....

the way to break islamic will is really fairly simple these days....NOT so simple when everyone had a agrarian society ......

It was still not the Christian way.

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by 78SA

Christianity did not exist when that happened. Maybe you should ask the Jews about it.

Then why is it in the Bible the Christians use? Hmm?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I never had SeaFive debate me with logic, just asinine, smart ass remarks.

I seem to remember him owing you big time with pictures & facts proving that our founding fathers intending our country to be based on Judeo-Christian beliefs.

[Kuelblaz]

Originally Posted by Wadoka

My favorite, which stays with me close to heart, is the 23rd Chapter - the "Seven Woes" -

"Woe to you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees - you hypocrites! For a pretense you make your phylacteries wide, your tassels long, and make loud prayers in public places... you tie up heavy burdens to place on a man's shoulders but lift not one finger to help him... you travel across seas and over land to win a single convert, and when you have him you make of him twice the son of Hell you are... you are like whitewashed tombs, on the outside bright and clean but inside, full of rubbish and dead men's bones and everything unclean! O woe to you!"

I like it! ... How appropriate it is, Thank you

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

Then why is it in the Bible the Christians use? Hmm?

The Bible has the old law which the Jews were under and the new law which everyone is under.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by 78SA

It was still not the Christian way.

WAY? whatEVER, still had to lay the smack down best as possible, same song, different day.....

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by 78SA

The Bible has the old law which the Jews were under and the new law which everyone is under.

Well, the point you are making may have some relevance to you, but I can't see how this justifies the atrocity in the verses.

Are you saying it's an acceptable story to the Jewish readers?

And if the old law doesn't apply toChristians, then why do they have the verses in the Bible they use? Why not just delete all the extraneous stuff? Seems like, if they really don't apply any more, they are just serving to confuse things.

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

Well, the point you are making may have some relevance to you, but I can't see how this justifies the atrocity in the verses.

Are you saying it's an acceptable story to the Jewish readers?

And if the old law doesn't apply toChristians, then why do they have the verses in the Bible they use? Why not just delete all the extraneous stuff? Seems like, if they really don't apply any more, they are just serving to confuse things.

Ask the Jews about that story and get their opinion.

The Old Law that got replaced by the New Law doesn't apply. Some things from the Old Law got carried over. Animal sacrifices did not get carried over.

[Sea Six]

So if it no longer applies, why is it still in the Bible?

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

So if it no longer applies, why is it still in the Bible?

You want to burn all the history books too?

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by 78SA

You want to burn all the history books too?

How many deflections have you had on this one question? I'll pause while you count them.

If you can't come up with a good answer, don't worry... I didn't think you could.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

How many deflections have you had on this one question? I'll pause while you count them.

If you can't come up with a good answer, don't worry... I didn't think you could.

what was the question?

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

How many deflections have you had on this one question? I'll pause while you count them.

If you can't come up with a good answer, don't worry... I didn't think you could.

No defelection. Just think about what you are wanting and you will see why I asked that question.

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by LarsAtTheBeach

what was the question?

Post #50.

Originally Posted by 78SA

No defelection. Just think about what you are wanting and you will see why I asked that question.

this, in and of itself, is yet another deflection. Are you going to answer the question of post 50?

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

Post #50.



this, in and of itself, is yet another deflection. Are you going to answer the question of post 50?

Because history is relevant. Now post your next christian hating question.

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by 78SA

Because history is relevant. Now post your next christian hating question.

Can you explain the relevance of this story, which is being kept in the Old Testament?

[78SA]

Originally Posted by Sea Six

Can you explain the relevance of this story, which is being kept in the Old Testament?

It sure makes you ask questions.