hoa madness: got a complaint about flying a Gadsden flag

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Norm

My place is zoned farming, screw 'em all, I'll fly what I want.

@Norm When I head to Kerbeck (Ciocca) next year, I definitely want to come by and see your place. Spent tons of time in the DelMarvelous area when I was back there.

[Norm]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

@Norm When I head to Kerbeck (Ciocca) next year, I definitely want to come by and see your place. Spent tons of time in the DelMarvelous area when I was back there.

You're more than welcome to stop by. Depending from what direction you'll be coming, south or west, consider the Cape May / Lewes Ferry to AC, pleasant ride.

[04 commemorative]

Wife and I take the ferry every now and then....fun ride

[Bill]

UPDATE:

hoa lady called, said their inspector (contract company) generated the complaint, it was not a resident complaining. Discussed my position, we both agreed the issue needed a little more research, they are suspending further action until we have clarification of the state law.

[sublime1996525]

WTF? A non-resident can submit a complaint? **** that.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by sublime1996525

WTF? A non-resident can submit a complaint? **** that.

The hoa hires a management company to drive around and look for violations once a month. The complaint was generated by that management company employee, someone paid to do that work by the hoa. Not a random complaint.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

UPDATE:

hoa lady called, said their inspector (contract company) generated the complaint, it was not a resident complaining. Discussed my position, we both agreed the issue needed a little more research, they are suspending further action until we have clarification of the state law.

Whoa.... back up. You're dealing with a HOA. Civility is never allowed

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

The hoa hires a management company to drive around and look for violations once a month. The complaint was generated by that management company employee, someone paid to do that work by the hoa. Not a random complaint.

So, your HOA hires it's own version of the Gestapo?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

So, your HOA hires it's own version of the Gestapo?

*its

Many HOAs hire a management company to hold contracts, pay invoices, get quotes for work, arrange meetings, and a long list of things. It's not uncommon. If the HOA desires the management company will do periodic inspections, but it's optional. Our HOA has a management company, but they don't send any warning/violation letter to a resident without approval from an officer or the entire Board - but we're a very small subdivision where everyone knows everyone and the HOA is very low key. HOAs are regulated far more in FL than any other state, even requiring training and certification for every Board member. Without a management company it's likely an HOA in FL would be in violation of state law.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Whoa.... back up. You're dealing with a HOA. Civility is never allowed

The irony is not lost on me that the conflict is over me hoisting a flag that symbolizes the concept of wanting to just be left alone. Nevertheless, I believe in trying to not shit where I eat. If I can work it out amicably, I would prefer to go that route, vs. going scorched earth.

I'm OK generally with the hoa.......we all benefit from mowed yards, no junk cars in front yards, etc. I am also OK with the trade off of not being able to fly, say, a Trump flag, in exchange for not having blm or fag flags flying where I live.

[Bill]

A little flag flying music while we wait:

Gotta Have More Love - YouTube

“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

― H.L. Mencken

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

The hoa hires a management company to drive around and look for violations once a month. The complaint was generated by that management company employee, someone paid to do that work by the hoa. Not a random complaint.

The developer sets the restrictions
The management company sends letters and does drive-thru inspections, as well as billing of fees.

I'm tryin to figure out what the HOA actually does.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by aerovette

The developer sets the restrictions
The management company sends letters and does drive-thru inspections, as well as billing of fees.

I'm tryin to figure out what the HOA actually does.

In our case, the management company serves as the lead on the architectural committee. They are responsible for reviewing all plans, from initial builds to modifications, against the architectural guidelines.

The HOA, per se, executes all business dealings with providers (electric, gas, wideband, snow removal, trash, etc., etc.), maintains our private roads, maintains our lodge, administers budgets and expenses, organizes many committees including landscaping, social, decorating, among others. Manages volunteer aspects, like snow stake installation and removal, meadow mowing, gate house maintenance and painting. They do a lot.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

In our case, the management company serves as the lead on the architectural committee. They are responsible for reviewing all plans, from initial builds to modifications, against the architectural guidelines.

The HOA, per se, executes all business dealings with providers (electric, gas, wideband, snow removal, trash, etc., etc.), maintains our private roads, maintains our lodge, administers budgets and expenses, organizes many committees including landscaping, social, decorating, among others. Manages volunteer aspects, like snow stake installation and removal, meadow mowing, gate house maintenance and painting. They do a lot.

My HOA uses the management company for all you have listed.

[PortDawg]

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You're welcome...

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by aerovette

The developer sets the restrictions
The management company sends letters and does drive-thru inspections, as well as billing of fees.

I'm tryin to figure out what the HOA actually does.

I'm curious: Is the neighborhood you live in fully developed or are there still lots left to be built out?

When I was HOA Prez, our Covenants had all sorts of verbiage about the developer's rights and so forth, but yet the last lot to be built on was completed 5 years prior. We had the covenants re-written by a lawyer to strip the developer of any authority. Our neighbor hood only had 300 homes, so it wasn't hard to do.

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

I'm curious: Is the neighborhood you live in fully developed or are there still lots left to be built out?

When I was HOA Prez, our Covenants had all sorts of verbiage about the developer's rights and so forth, but yet the last lot to be built on was completed 5 years prior. We had the covenants re-written by a lawyer to strip the developer of any authority. Our neighbor hood only had 300 homes, so it wasn't hard to do.

My section has been finished for 12 years, yet the developer still holds 2 lots, those two lots affords the developer 3 out of 5 seats.

There are other sections still under development but not mine, doesn't matter developer gets all the rights till all the lots are sold. When speaking with the elected board members they're generally okay with the consistent representation we get from the developer. It feels shady as shit to me, but he has a point, this at least prevents activist karens from getting a seat on the board for single issues.

[Bill]

Update:

Received E-mail from hoa.

Hi Mr. Daniels. I wanted to first thank you for your service. I want to also apologize for the letter. According to the Texas Property Code, an official or replica flag of any branch of the United States armed forces. Our inspector did not recognize the flag as being an official 1st flag of the US Marines. Unfortunately, our deed violation coordinator did not either. The letter should never have been sent. I have asked Diana to remove the violation from your account and close this incident. CKM and its employees are proud supporters of every branch of the military. Our employees have veteran spouses, parents and/or children that have served or are currently serving. We did not mean any disrespect to you or your family. This was an honest mistake.



Thanks for being patient and understanding with Diana. Its nice to resolve issues professionally. I appreciate that. Have a great rest of the day and week.



Bruce.

Glad this resolved amicably. Note, I am not, and never claimed to have served, just that a relative had served. Don't know where that came from.

[MadInNc]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Update:

Received E-mail from hoa.




Glad this resolved amicably. Note, I am not, and never claimed to have served, just that a relative had served. Don't know where that came from.

So, no bat house? Damn

[Bill]

Originally Posted by MadInNc

So, no bat house? Damn

I would be interested in putting up a bat house, a small one, and I have occasionally seen bats around, but wonder if that would have a deleterious effect on bees. My watermelon vines were prolific this year, but I only got maybe a dozen melons, rarely saw a bee anywhere around, even though there were plenty of flowers for them to pollinate. I suspect the pollination that did occur was mostly from a few wasps that like to hang out in the area.