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Old 07-09-2020, 9:20am   #421
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I know that YOU know this, but for the sake of others I'll note that you have barely scratched the surface of what is going on currently and what the road ahead holds for us. It's not theory. It is actual.

Just a like a magic show, we are drawn to look this way, when the slight of hand is that way. I'm the guy that watches the magician's OTHER hand.
Oh, I know about a lot more stuff than I've touched on in this thread. The absolute hypocrisy, the revisionist history, the corruption of our "healthcare experts", the collusion with Big Pharma in blocking cheap and effective treatments, it goes on and on. You have people still looking at you like a nutjob if you just point out that China spread this world-wide on purpose. Or point out that the virus was made in a lab, and somehow was released into the wild. Or point out that there has never been an effective vaccine for a fast-mutating corona virus (or any other fast-mutating viral agent.) The way our media has handled this from day one has been to amp up the public's fear, to play down any and all good news, and to vilify anyone who speaks out against their propaganda. Some people are so fully into their fear of this thing that they pretty much refuse to hear anything that would walk them back from their personal cliff.
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Oh, I know about a lot more stuff than I've touched on in this thread. The absolute hypocrisy, the revisionist history, the corruption of our "healthcare experts", the collusion with Big Pharma in blocking cheap and effective treatments, it goes on and on. You have people still looking at you like a nutjob if you just point out that China spread this world-wide on purpose. Or point out that the virus was made in a lab, and somehow was released into the wild. Or point out that there has never been an effective vaccine for a fast-mutating corona virus (or any other fast-mutating viral agent.) The way our media has handled this from day one has been to amp up the public's fear, to play down any and all good news, and to vilify anyone who speaks out against their propaganda. Some people are so fully into their fear of this thing that they pretty much refuse to hear anything that would walk them back from their personal cliff.
Flu shots were far too "optional" and school vaccines started getting pushback and the push back was getting more popular. They learned from that, so this time around the fear gets amped up so you would have to be a lunatic NOT to get the government required vaccine...and will ultimately be a criminal if you don't.
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Ever notice the CDC is Center for Disease CONTROL and not PREVENTION ?
Hadn't noticed that because English is my first language.

https://www.cdc.gov/
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This has to be the single most retarded comment here, among all the comments. This stands alone as just absolute clueless assumption theater. Nothing could be further from the truth, I've probably never even commented on a thing you've ever said, and you don't know me unlike several people here. We are all more stupid for reading your comment, you should be ashamed and feel bad for the rest of the evening, and I hope you find peace in the morning.
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I wear pants when it's cold to keep my legs warm. I do not wear pants to prevent myself from pissing on other people, nor does the fact that other men are wearing pants protect me in any way from their urine stream should they decide they want to piss on me.

Liar. You wear pants so no one can see your weenir.
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Liar. You wear pants so no one can see your weenir.
No, that's wrong. I'm not wearing pants today because it's hot, and my legs don't need to be kept warm. When it gets cold again in October/November, I'll go back to wearing pants, not until.
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No, that's wrong. I'm not wearing pants today because it's hot, and my legs don't need to be kept warm.
Pics of your dress?
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Pics of your dress?
I'm not wearing a dress. Come on, keep trying. You can do it!
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This has been your go to response, if I may respond.

We do care about those deaths.

We constantly encourage hand washing, flu shots, cover your cough and sneeze, and stay home when you are sick with the flu, but guess what? Lots of people REFUSE to listen.....

Car accidents, we have speed limits, seat belt laws, don't drink and drive, school speed zones, stop signs, traffic lights etc.... Guess what, lots of people refuse to listen.

Drowning deaths, wear a life vest, fences around pools, watch your kids, don't mix being drunk and water, don't leave 5 gallon buckets to fill with water where kids can fall in (even has it printed on the side) guess what, people don't LISTEN.

Smoking/obesity...... don't get me started... you know I work in a lung clinic right? And obesity is #1 overall cause and affect killer of Americans.


My point is WE do care, I DO CARE, but sadly, when we try to help people HELP themselves, they argue, make excuses and scream about FREEDOMS, instead of listening and realizing we DO care and we ARE trying to help you.
You guys would care us right into a plastic bubble. Some things we all need to be informed of, given the knowledge to make an informed decision. BUT "We" make the decision for ourselves. Not you or the .gov

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It goes both ways though.

Yes, the Dems started Covid and BLM to totally derail Trump's presidency.
Prior to that, Trump had the spin doctors on overtime, winning the PR battle.
Well now... It looks like he is getting a dose of his own medicine now and the tables are turned.

In all seriousness though, I don't, and haven't for a long time, believed any politician's motives at face value. Dem or Rep.
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I know that YOU know this, but for the sake of others I'll note that you have barely scratched the surface of what is going on currently and what the road ahead holds for us. It's not theory. It is actual.

Just a like a magic show, we are drawn to look this way, when the slight of hand is that way. I'm the guy that watches the magician's OTHER hand.
And Strats watches the bulge in his pants.

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I'm not wearing a dress. Come on, keep trying. You can do it!
He really can't. I wish you'd stop encouraging him.

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Hadn't noticed that because English is my first language.

https://www.cdc.gov/
Where is the "P" in CDC ?

Seems like an afterthought. Yeah, you busted me on that one.


An act of the United States Congress appended the words "and Prevention" to the name effective October 27, 1992
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The Republican coronavirus meatgrinder

Liberal propaganda with a high rating of factual reporting according to the second link.

https://theweek.com/articles/924348

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Overall, we rate The Week Left Biased based on story selection that frequently favors the left as well as strongly left leaning editorial positions. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a reasonable fact check record.
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The Republican coronavirus meatgrinder

Liberal propaganda with a high rating of factual reporting according to the second link.

https://theweek.com/articles/924348

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-week/

So, they cherry pick what to report (like all media) and then give it a left perspective. Not exactly news.
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"We" make the decision for ourselves. Not you or the .GOV
When your decision affects me and my family you better watch the F@#k out!
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So, they cherry pick what to report (like all far right does) and then give it a far right perspective. Not exactly news.
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When your decision affects me and my family you better watch the F@#k out!
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So, they cherry pick what to report (like all media) and then give it a left perspective. Not exactly news.
Seems like they made some valid points. I’d like to see something that counters them — schools opening, McConnell’s liability protections, Sweden, meat packing industry, Amazon, teachers, etc.
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Seems like they made some valid points. I’d like to see something that counters them — schools opening, McConnell’s liability protections, Sweden, meat packing industry, Amazon, teachers, etc.
I didn't read the article Mark. There is so much information out there about what's going on, with "experts" disagreeing and arguing with each other. Pick the story from whatever side you believe and go with it; that's what most people are doing. I don't read or watch any nationwide media "news" as it's so slanted, regardless of the source. The facts are out there, but you have to find them, the MSM (on both sides) don't report them.

Personally, as a scientist and statistics guy, I only really pay attention to the numbers and stats. Even living in Florida those statistics don't cause me much concern. I have a better chance of dying from a lot of other things than this virus, so I'll keep on living my life. YMMV.

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The CDC is quietly developing a plan to decide who should get the vaccine first, and race is one factor they're considering.

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and an advisory committee of outside health experts in April began working on a ranking system for what may be an extended rollout in the United States. According to a preliminary plan, any approved vaccines would be offered to vital medical and national security officials first, and then to other essential workers and those considered at high risk — the elderly instead of children, people with underlying conditions instead of the relatively healthy.

Agency officials and the advisers are also considering what has become a contentious option: putting Black and Latino people, who have disproportionately fallen victim to Covid-19, ahead of others in the population.
Yeah, that will go over well. That might be a good way to start a race war.
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The Republican coronavirus meatgrinder
Three states, New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts account for 42% of all COVID-19 deaths in the USA, 56,000 out of 133,000. Despite being just 10% of the US population. So yeah, about that Republican coronavirus meatgrinder thing, you were saying?
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In a nutshell...
I live my life away from humans as much as possible already.
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