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Old 11-12-2021, 10:10am   #1
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Default Covid Overreaction is Killing Dems at the Polls Says Retired Dem MD

Vaccine pushers need to read it several times and pay close attention to the numbers, aka facts, and then STFU and let people make their own medical decisions - but they won't.

Democrats' overreaction to the pandemic is alienating voters

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As a moderate Democrat for more than five decades, I have seen politicians in both parties act remarkably blind and deaf to the true causes of their defeats when they really don’t want to hear the truth.

Most recently, the Democrats had a major defeat at the polls, and they have tried to blame it on their failure to pass infrastructure legislation prior to the election. Although this was possibly a small factor, the major unspoken reason was their imposition of excessive closures and mandates related to the COVID-19 pandemic. I am a retired physician, and yes, COVID-19 is a true pandemic that has killed 750,000 Americans in the last two years. However, for healthy younger people, a COVID-19 infection presents minimal health risks.

To better put the deaths in perspective, 200,000 of them occurred in people aged 85 and older. Another 195,000 deaths occurred in people aged 75 and older. Taken together, more than 50% of all COVID-19 deaths occurred in elderly people at high risk for death due to other causes. Only 18,000 deaths have occurred among the 150 million people in the United States aged 40 or younger. The death rate in this age group is about 1 in 10,000.

Among school-age children, there have been fewer than 600 total deaths among the 80 million children younger than 18 years old, for a death rate of less than 1 out of every 100,000 children. Of the deaths in people who were younger than 40 years old, the vast majority of them occurred in people with impaired immune systems due to chronic disease, cancer, severe obesity, or other high-risk conditions.

Fortunately, vaccination usually reduces the severity of the disease and the risk of death. The elderly and those with risk factors for severe COVID-19 infection should choose to be vaccinated, but no one should be forced to be vaccinated. Even after vaccination, some people with weakened immune systems, either from advanced age or other risk factors, will continue to die from COVID-19. No amount of immunization or miracle drugs can prevent this from happening.

Most importantly, if you “follow the science,” the numbers above cannot possibly justify the imposition of vaccine mandates in schools or in most businesses. People do not want their healthcare decisions to be made for them by the government.

This has been clearly shown with regard to the issue of cigarette smoking. Everyone knows that smoking is harmful and that long-term smoking significantly reduces life expectancy, yet large numbers of people continue to smoke. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that “cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States.” Although I would never advocate it, we would save far more lives by making smoking illegal than will ever be saved with vaccine mandates.

Democratic officials have alienated large numbers of moderate Democratic voters, and especially independent voters, by imposing excessive closures, mask requirements, and vaccine mandates. Next November, this will become obvious. By then, both infrastructure bills will have passed, and the Democrats will suffer very large losses at the polls because of their continued overreactions to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Mark Donnell is a retired medical doctor in New Mexico.
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Control is control. They don't care what the cost is. As long as they know how to place their candidate in the White House the rest doesn't matter.
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Maybe it's a good thing that Covid is exposing them for the Nazis they are.
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"wear masks, saves lives"

we all wear masks, cases go up.

science says there is no correlation between wearing masks and decreasing cases.

conclusion: stop wearing masks.
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Not to mention their zombie like insistence to use the words justice, racism, equity, white supremacy, inclusive, diversity blah blah blah in every sentence they utter.
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And none of this logic help me avoid the jab when my dumbass company made it mandatory and you'd be fired if you don't take the jab. That shit should already be illegal. Guess how "productive" I'm going to be in the next few years before I retire.
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"wear masks, saves lives"

we all wear masks, cases go up.

science says there is no correlation between wearing masks and decreasing cases.

conclusion: stop wearing masks.
Just curious: if Fauci had stuck to his original "no masks" guidance would everybody still hate him?
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Just curious: if Fauci had stuck to his original "no masks" guidance would everybody still hate him? :lurk:
No, but many would still despise him for lying about funding virus research at the lab in Wuhan while being the highest paid employee in the entire federal government.
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And none of this logic help me avoid the jab when my dumbass company made it mandatory and you'd be fired if you don't take the jab. That shit should already be illegal. Guess how "productive" I'm going to be in the next few years before I retire.
Hey dude, keep your chin up and just keep on keepin' on.
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I don’t know what passes for Vac cards elsewhere, but the ones they are providing in my area look like they could be forged by a third grader with a laser printer and a sharpie.
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I don’t know what passes for Vac cards elsewhere, but the ones they are providing in my area look like they could be forged by a third grader with a laser printer and a sharpie.
You can probably find them online somewhere.
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I don’t know what passes for Vac cards elsewhere, but the ones they are providing in my area look like they could be forged by a third grader with a laser printer and a sharpie.
Even better, since most of the cards are larger than wallet size, most places only require a phone photo to verify....because that really shows all the details!
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they'd be better off just telling us the pros and cons of masks and shots. let people choose their level of risk.

we don't ban booze and cigs, we just tell people not to smoke and to drink in moderation, but we can do as we please. and take the consequences of our choices.
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You must accept the “science” - unless the science does not agree with our agenda.
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I wanna kick Fauchi’s ball bag off with steel toe Red Wing.
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they'd be better off just telling us the pros and cons of masks and shots. let people choose their level of risk.

we don't ban booze and cigs, we just tell people not to smoke and to drink in moderation, but we can do as we please. and take the consequences of our choices.
I can't gain the health benefits of not smoking and not drinking, unless you stop smoking and stop drinking, too. Why can't you understand that?




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