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Old 05-22-2023, 3:53pm   #1
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Default Prayer question....

Since our son passed away I have gone to bed every night praying myself to sleep for him and when I wake up too......one of the prayers is the Hail Mary and something is confusing to me about it....

Mary had Jesus who was Gods son right......so why in the prayer does it say
"Holy Mary mother of God" ?

This is my life now......not great
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i can't sort out Vatican doctrine in one post.

Protestants pray directly to God, Mary is never involved.
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Since our son passed away I have gone to bed every night praying myself to sleep for him and when I wake up too......one of the prayers is the Hail Mary and something is confusing to me about it....

Mary had Jesus who was Gods son right......so why in the prayer does it say
"Holy Mary mother of God" ?

This is my life now......not great
No expert here, but with the holy trinity thing going on, aren't God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit one and the same, thus God?
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Trinity, in Christian doctrine, the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead. The doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be one of the central Christian affirmations about God. It is rooted in the fact that God came to meet Christians in a threefold figure: (1) as Creator, Lord of the history of salvation, Father, and Judge, as revealed in the Old Testament; (2) as the Lord who, in the incarnated figure of Jesus Christ, lived among human beings and was present in their midst as the “Resurrected One”; and (3) as the Holy Spirit, whom they experienced as the helper or intercessor in the power of the new life.
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God the Father is a title given to God in Christianity. In mainstream trinitarian Christianity, God the Father is regarded as the first person of the Trinity, followed by the second person, God the Son Jesus Christ, and the third person, God the Holy Spirit.[1] Since the second century, Christian creeds included affirmation of belief in "God the Father (Almighty)", primarily in his capacity as "Father and creator of the universe"

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Matthew 6:5-8 -

5 ¶ And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
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Throw out that prayer and pray from your heart.
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Since our son passed away I have gone to bed every night praying myself to sleep for him and when I wake up too......one of the prayers is the Hail Mary and something is confusing to me about it....

Mary had Jesus who was Gods son right......so why in the prayer does it say
"Holy Mary mother of God" ?

This is my life now......not great
Mary = only one born without original sin, hence the mother of God. Others have explained the Holy Trinity pretty well here also.
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This thread is heart breaking... I hope prayer brings you some comfort, no matter if it's a little or a lot.

My sister was killed in '91, both of my parents were never the same, a portion of my mother's heart and spirit died that day too. We think of my sister every day.

Please know that despite the tragedy of losing your son, you are not alone, and he is not alone.

prayers brother.
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the vatican teaching that Mary was sinless has no basis in the Bible.

Luke 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

Mary refers to God as her Saviour, and only sinners need a Saviour.
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What I don't understand about religion is why God allows priests to diddle little kids.
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Forget what I said. God doesn't listen to my prayers.
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It's called Free Will.

What I don't understand is why a religion worships and prays to Mary.
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It's called Free Will.

What I don't understand is why a religion worships and prays to Mary.
When you find yourself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to you--speaking words of wisdom.

Let it be.

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What I don't understand about religion is why God allows priests to diddle little kids.
Because we live in a broken and evil world. God sent Jesus to save us but not everyone accepts his grace. So the world remains broken and evil.
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It's called Free Will.

What I don't understand is why a religion worships and prays to Mary.
Because of the virgin birth of Jesus. She is holy.
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When you find yourself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to you--speaking words of wisdom.

Let it be.

Yeah, but the song was about Pauls mom who had passed away.
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Yeah, but the song was about Pauls mom who had passed away.
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the song was about a dream he had about his mother, Mary..who reassured him that everything would be ok with the Beatles break up.
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exactly....I didn't think that clarification was necessary but......I have been wrong before
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