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Old 09-28-2013, 6:40pm   #161
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Red is a butch. A butchy man.
Well, that's what he aspires to be, anyway.
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My late mother, rest her soul, was quite naïve about the whole gay thing. My dad explained it to her the best he could, part of his explanation of the lesbian relationship is that often one would take more of a "male" role in the relationship. My mom asked if she saw a lesbian couple at the supermarket, how could she know which one was the "male"? Easy, he said, it's the one pushing the cart.


Speaking of discussions, when my daughter came out, of course, we had to have a whole DIFFERENT 'safe sex' discussion. This was responsible parenting at its finest, as the conversation ended like this:

Me: And if you find yourself in a situation where you have no protection...Saran Wrap.
Caitlin: (Pause) What...?!?!
Me: I'm serious. You have to take safe sex seriously. Google it. Saran Wrap could save your life.
Caitlin: Ok. I'm leaving. Now you're just making shit up.

We laugh our asses off about it now.
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Speaking of discussions, when my daughter came out, of course, we had to have a whole DIFFERENT 'safe sex' discussion. This was responsible parenting at its finest, as the conversation ended like this:

Me: And if you find yourself in a situation where you have no protection...Saran Wrap.
Caitlin: (Pause) What...?!?!
Me: I'm serious. You have to take safe sex seriously. Google it. Saran Wrap could save your life.
Caitlin: Ok. I'm leaving. Now you're just making shit up.

We laugh our asses off about it now.
Admit it. The next time you're at the supermarket with your daughter and her partner, you're going to look to see which one is pushing the cart.
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Admit it. The next time you're at the supermarket with your daughter and her partner, you're going to look to see which one is pushing the cart.
I don't even have to see it to know its my daughter.

The girls:





My kid is the white one.

Andrea is ½ black and ½ Spanish. We were all having dinner one day and I said, "Girls, let's go become millionaires. We've got this affirmative action thing nailed between us."



The thing is, we all want the house, 2 kids and white picket fence for our kids. In the end, though, we just really want them to be happy. I love Andrea like she was my own daughter. Now she is. She is a wonderful, caring person, she loves my daughter and they make one another happy.
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I don't even have to see it to know its my daughter.

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My kid is the white one.

Andrea is ½ black and ½ Spanish. We were all having dinner one day and I said, "Girls, let's go become millionaires. We've got this affirmative action thing nailed between us."



The thing is, we all want the house, 2 kids and white picket fence for our kids. In the end, though, we just really want them to be happy. I love Andrea like she was my own daughter. She is a a wonderful, caring person, she loves my daughter and they make one another happy.
Yeah, I can see it in the pictures. Looks like a nice couple.
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Old 09-28-2013, 7:36pm   #166
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Sorry to say, but Red and I are right, it's official:

Gambian president says gays a threat to human existence-20130928

So stay out of Gambia
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Half the men of VB just went off to fap over the idea of NAV and...



Other than that...some of you guys are getting nasty and personal. Let's not have VB wind up as another CF...Red isn't closed minded, he just doesn't agree. I know gay people, and have a gay relative. I just don't like PDAs, what they do behind closed doors, and whether or not they'll go to hell for it, is their business and their problem.

So...some people here are pro-gay and/or tolerant of it...some of us at the thought. Can we leave it at that and find something funny or at least less contentious to discuss?
Same here...I have distant gay relative, and I have a couple gay friends, we just do not discuss the subject and its not brought up. They understand that I am opposed to it, and respect that. I didnt start out being so opposed to gays...not at all, at first I was some what accepting, its the mentallity they carry, the way they make it a point to make as big a deal about it as possible, and the "Im here and im queer get used to it" mindset.....I will not have that tossed in my face and be expected to just accept it.....in fact the harder they push, the more i push back. It saddens me to see people who once opposed like me..just give up the fight..and say f*ck it...cant win...so why try.

Its like Alabama football...I was a fan...then they started winning and their supporters got cocky and rowdy... started throwing it in everyones face...their actions made me anti-Alabama football.


Its not the gays so much as the PDAs, the rainbow flags, the pride marches, the pride weeks, LGBT banks...cross dressing, butch lesbians, fairies....they do everything they can to stick out like a sore thumb, then cry foul when you single them out...
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Also, fwiw, Ive gone to The upper P of Michigan, Makinaw Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Florida, Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, N.M., Arizona, Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, And into Ohio.....Ive dipped my hands into the Mississippi River, put my Feet in the Gulf, and the Atlantic, LAke Michigan and Lake Huron...Ive been to the Worlds LArgest Christmas store in Frankenmuth Michigan...Disney World, Universal Studios, Burbon Street...Ive done pretty decent, but i do know of people my age who have never been beyond alabama....and thats sad.
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I think Duke is either part of Red's family or his gay lover.
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Go look at his pic and tell me you could ever say no to him
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As for the homecoming queen, I feel for her/him if he/she is truly transsexual and suffering or struggling with it mentally/emotionally with to it. But he/she is delusional if he/she thought he/she was not going to run into some backlash from high school kids.They pick one another for every damn thing.
The homecoming queen is greeting exactly the kind of attention he was hoping for.
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You really don't care that you're judging millions because of the actions of a few do you?


It really is a minority of the LGBT community that is in-your-face flamboyant. But they get the press time. Just like the idiots from Westboro Church. Just because they scream the loudest, doesn't mean they are representative on the majority.

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The homecoming queen is greeting exactly the kind of attention he was hoping for.
I'm sure there were positive, supportive people. However, when you put yourself out like that, so publicly, there will be negative feedback, as well. Kid better toughen up. The world is not all rainbows and unicorns.
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Also, fwiw, Ive gone to The upper P of Michigan, Makinaw Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Florida, Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, N.M., Arizona, Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, And into Ohio.....Ive dipped my hands into the Mississippi River, put my Feet in the Gulf, and the Atlantic, LAke Michigan and Lake Huron...Ive been to the Worlds LArgest Christmas store in Frankenmuth Michigan...Disney World, Universal Studios, Burbon Street...Ive done pretty decent, but i do know of people my age who have never been beyond alabama....and thats sad.
I grew up in Michigan. Frankenmuth was (at least) a yearly trip. The Christmas store (Bronner's) is awesome.

Did you guys go to Zehnder's for their famous chicken dinners?
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Only half?
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I'm sure there were positive, supportive people. However, when you put yourself out like that, so publicly, there will be negative feedback, as well. Kid better toughen up. The world is not all rainbows and unicorns.
He's looking for attention; at that drama-is-everything age, even negative attention is good...probably better, gives him an excuse to feel bad.
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He's looking for attention; at that drama-is-everything age, even negative attention is good...probably better, gives him an excuse to feel bad.
There are people from all walks of life like that, though. Grown ass folks, too.
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There are people from all walks of life like that, though. Grown ass folks, too.
Some of them post here.
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There are millions of them now? Jesus Christ..its gotten out of hand, its officially a Pandemic
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I grew up in Michigan. Frankenmuth was (at least) a yearly trip. The Christmas store (Bronner's) is awesome.

Did you guys go to Zehnder's for their famous chicken dinners?
Nah, we left The Cottonwood Campground in Lansing at about 8am, went to Bronners, then back to The campground by about 5pm. I was more into their selection of Spartan memorabilia than their X_mas stuff, I did get 3 strings of bubble lights, cant find that crap down here...

The Next year we went to Macinaw, I really liked that trip, the Jet boat ferry was awesome...those suckers can get up and move.
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Some of them post here.
Without a doubt.

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Nah, we left The Cottonwood Campground in Lansing at about 8am, went to Bronners, then back to The campground by about 5pm. I was more into their selection of Spartan memorabilia than their X_mas stuff, I did get 3 strings of bubble lights, cant find that crap down here...

The Next year we went to Macinaw, I really liked that trip, the Jet boat ferry was awesome...those suckers can get up and move.
As far as Christmas decorations go, if they make it, Bronner's probably has it.

Mackinac Island is really fun. There's an old Revolutionary War fort on the island. A lot of the original buildings are still standing; the barracks, hospital, etc. Some pretty cool lighthouses, as well.
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