Assault at NCAA Women's Basketball Game

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

You think that’s their job?

Yes. It absolutely IS their job, teaching good sportsmanship, along with fundamentals, strategy, skill and stamina development. How is this even a serious question? The coach is responsible for maintaining good order and discipline on the team, and responsible for ensuring the team doesn't reflect poorly on the school or organization it represents. Do you think this conduct reflects favorably on the school? Do you think more highly of the school now that you've seen one of their players physically attack a player on an opposing team, an unprovoked attack?

Link showing coaches are not responsible for teaching and demanding good conduct and good sportsmanship?

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Yes. It absolutely IS their job, teaching good sportsmanship, along with fundamentals, strategy, skill and stamina development. How is this even a serious question? The coach is responsible for maintaining good order and discipline on the team, and responsible for ensuring the team doesn't reflect poorly on the school or organization it represents. Do you think this conduct reflects favorably on the school? Do you think more highly of the school now that you've seen one of their players physically attack a player on an opposing team, an unprovoked attack?

Link showing coaches are not responsible for teaching and demanding good conduct and good sportsmanship?

That’s not what you said. You said character.

Good coaches screen for character. You don’t teach character to a 22 year old.

Apparently you can’t teach it to geriatrics either.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

That’s not what you said. You said character.

Good coaches screen for character. You don’t teach character to a 22 year old.

Apparently you can’t teach it to geriatrics either.

How ironic.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by DAB

it's just a game, a pointless, meaningless game, why all the hate?

shake hands, say good game, move on. very few of these players, men and women, will be playing games for their living moving forward.

It all started with Cassius Clay.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

That’s not what you said. You said character.

Good coaches screen for character. You don’t teach character to a 22 year old.

Apparently you can’t teach it to geriatrics either.

Most college players are 18 when they start playing college ball. Are you saying that, at age 18, players are already beyond even TRYING to develop good character? They're already beyond redemption because they grew up with shitty and or missing parents?

Sadly, for many kids, coaches are the only chance they have of learning and developing good character. I think it's sad you are ready to write off kids who still have a chance of turning their lives around.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Most college players are 18 when they start playing college ball. Are you saying that, at age 18, players are already beyond even TRYING to develop good character? They're already beyond redemption because they grew up with shitty and or missing parents?

Sadly, for many kids, coaches are the only chance they have of learning and developing good character. I think it's sad you are ready to write off kids who still have a chance of turning their lives around.

Link to where I said that? Those are your words.

[Anjdog2003]

TheRealBadger:

Being eristic is a fairly common quality for a debater to have. Eristic describes things that have to do with an argument, or simply the tendency to debate, especially when someone loves to win an argument and values that more highly than arriving at the truth.




[TheRealBadger]Why do you say that?[/TheRealBadger]

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[TheRealBadger]Link?[/TheRealBadger]

[LATB]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

You think that’s their job?

I have seen a lot of interviews where a young lady or young man would credit their coach for mentoring them and giving them good direction in life. They usually speak specifically about character.

Many (most?) sure as heck are not getting it at home.

The disrespect towards others and towards authority figures, seen from youngsters today is awful. This is especially true in the black communities.
Of course I’m a racist for pointing this out.

[Mike Mercury]

from one of the news outlets:

"It's not clear what provoked the incident..."

damage control has already started.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

from one of the news outlets:

"It's not clear what provoked the incident..."

damage control has already started.

Indeed. Reverse the players and the narrative would be nonstop racist racist racist. The young negro b-ball lady would end up with a statue next to Saint George Floyd.

[Mike Mercury]

Shutes was arrested and charged with misdemeanor assault after turning herself in to authorities on Thursday Source. She was released on $1,000 bond...

who posted her bond; Kamala ???

[m and t's77]

Originally Posted by LATB

Of course I’m a racist for pointing this out.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

Link to where I said that? Those are your words.

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

That’s not what you said. You said character.

Good coaches screen for character. You don’t teach character to a 22 year old.

Apparently you can’t teach it to geriatrics either.

Coaches don't teach or build character because they don't recruit kids with character flaws. If this is not what you meant by "Good coaches screen for character," then please explain your intent, if not the obvious.

Good coaches are screening for character. Does that mean they don't recruit players with character flaws? Are they screening to find only players WITH character flaws? What, exactly is the screening process of the coaches with regard to character? We can feel confident they are screening for talent and ability on the field or court. What's the character screening, exactly?

And then there's the question of, what about all the other coaches besides the "good coaches?" What about them? What are they doing about player character, player character development?

I suppose if we're talking about coaches of professional teams, not school teams, you might have a legitimate talking point. Those players are being hired for a job, and all that should be required of them is to not get embroiled in scandal. So hey, pro b-baller, go ahead and beat your baby mama, drive drunk, assault people at bars, and deal drugs, just don't get caught and embarrass the team. We don't give a crap whether you have good character or not, just that you don't get caught doing anything illegal.

[PLRX]

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Coaches don't teach or build character because they don't recruit kids with character flaws. If this is not what you meant by "Good coaches screen for character," then please explain your intent, if not the obvious.

Good coaches are screening for character. Does that mean they don't recruit players with character flaws? Are they screening to find only players WITH character flaws? What, exactly is the screening process of the coaches with regard to character? We can feel confident they are screening for talent and ability on the field or court. What's the character screening, exactly?

And then there's the question of, what about all the other coaches besides the "good coaches?" What about them? What are they doing about player character, player character development?

I suppose if we're talking about coaches of professional teams, not school teams, you might have a legitimate talking point. Those players are being hired for a job, and all that should be required of them is to not get embroiled in scandal. So hey, pro b-baller, go ahead and beat your baby mama, drive drunk, assault people at bars, and deal drugs, just don't get caught and embarrass the team. We don't give a crap whether you have good character or not, just that you don't get caught doing anything illegal.

College teams are professional. Maybe you didn’t know that now.

And for the rest, I think you get it now.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

College teams are professional. Maybe you didn’t know that now.

And for the rest, I think you get it now.

Please explain.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

College teams are professional. Maybe you didn’t know that now.

And for the rest, I think you get it now.

Originally Posted by LATB

Please explain.

LATB,
Put on your boots, he is really going to muck things up with his own dictionary and encyclopedia for his answer.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by LATB

Please explain.

Players get paid. A lot, coaches get paid. A lot. Transfers are almost entirely free for all.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

Players get paid. A lot, coaches get paid. A lot. Transfers are almost entirely free for all.

I understand that there are perks for the athletes that come with the gig. Especially if one is a star. But in the literal definition I don’t believe that they are paid. And isn’t that the definition of a professional athlete.

[DAB]

i was watching parts of the NFL combine a few weeks ago, and aside from the on field tests and drills everyone was put thru, all players were also interviewed by various team reps. many players noted that they were asked all sorts of odd questions in their interviews.

why were they interviewed? to sort out what kind of character they had. would they be a good fit for the organization?

character counts.

if you read old stories about John Wooden, many players down the road reported that he spent lots of time coaching and teaching character, aside from how to shoot and pass and move.

if, at 22 years old, you think that shoving and punching someone because of what they might have said, is appropriate, civilized behavior, then you have failed Life 101. try again. you want to engage in combat? join the army.