Hey NOX

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by z06psi

Launching points in the ME if we were ever to stay there are Ali Al-Salem in Kuwait or Al-Udied in Qatar. Soldiers are not being killed there.


See if you had been there you would know that. But you haven't so you don't.

Thanks for solidifying all of my points for me.

Thank you for the lesson

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by z06psi

Another point.


I have obviously been in D and R administrations.

D administrations are not good. The force suffers and more importantly the readiness suffers tremendously.

We have a strategic policy to fight two wars at the same time.

Readiness falls to such a critical level under Ds (really globalists in general) where that is not possible.

A Biden administration will be no different. The Chinese know that.

We would need to cancel that long standing policy but it would come with risks.

Anyone want to address this? Facts are rooted in history.

Will Biden be different? Most probably not since since other facts about his own son and himself say otherwise.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by z06psi

Anyone want to address this? Facts are rooted in history.

Will Biden be different? Most probably not since since other facts about his own son and himself say otherwise.

C'mon man! You couldn't find a D on this board if he paraded around in a sandwich board with Hillary on one side and Cumala on the other.

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Is a bullshit response from a fool. Jeff is absolutely entitled to his opinion which was my entire point.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.

Daniel Patrick Moynihan

[VITE1]

When we first went into Afghanistan my Father, a 2 war veteran, said it's a waste of time and we should just nuke them and turn the country into a glass encrusted memorial for 9/11.

He was right.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by VITE1

When we first went into Afghanistan my Father, a 2 war veteran, said it's a waste of time and we should just nuke them and turn the country into a glass encrusted memorial for 9/11.

He was right.

You had to figure that if the Russians couldn't do it in 10 years.......

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

You had to figure that if the Russians couldn't do it in 10 years.......

Or the British or the Greeks or any of a dozen other nations trying to civilize them.

Yet If Bush haf done that the progressive liberals would have impeached his.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by VITE1

Or the British or the Greeks or any of a dozen other nations trying to civilize them.

Yet If Bush haf done that the progressive liberals would have impeached his.

Should have tactical nuked Osama wherever he was.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Fair, but your logic is flawed IMHO.

The things being discussed here are matters of national interest. If you tell your son football is dangerous you can't play, that's very much a personal decision that impacts only your immediate household.

I never had children. You can all drop a 'Thanks' on me below this response.

Again, your logic is flawed, not mine. I actually know something about football as I played for a few years when I was a child. If you have zero knowledge or experience with football, and conclude on your own that it is too dangerous to let your son play, IMO, you're a dumbass. Every guy who has guy friends could ask around and find out the "Pop Warner" type of football is very safe, and that a kid getting any injury more serious than a bruise is very rare. The danger comes at the High School level when the size, strength, and speed of the players is exploding.

I can similarly have an opinion on what kinds of wars our nation should and shouldn't be getting involved with. What if my son gets drafted? Is this particular war worth it to me to potentially put my son in harm's way? But if I was to start opining on where we should open an Army base, I'm sure I would be roundly ignored by all those who have direct knowledge of such things. See the difference?

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by Mick

Again, your logic is flawed, not mine. I actually know something about football as I played for a few years when I was a child. If you have zero knowledge or experience with football, and conclude on your own that it is too dangerous to let your son play, IMO, you're a dumbass. Every guy who has guy friends could ask around and find out the "Pop Warner" type of football is very safe, and that a kid getting any injury more serious than a bruise is very rare. The danger comes at the High School level when the size, strength, and speed of the players is exploding.

I can similarly have an opinion on what kinds of wars our nation should and shouldn't be getting involved with. What if my son gets drafted? Is this particular war worth it to me to potentially put my son in harm's way? But if I was to start opining on where we should open an Army base, I'm sure I would be roundly ignored by all those who have direct knowledge of such things. See the difference?

Not really but that OK.

My entire point to jumping into this mess was that Jeff is entitled to an opinion without having served. That's it. That's all.

[Anjdog2003]

Originally Posted by Thomas

I never had children.

And you never served so wgaf on your opinion on the Military or children. Just like someone that has never picked up a guitar giving their opinion on how to play it. Get it?

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by Anjdog2003

And you never served so wgaf on your opinion on the Military or children. Just like someone that has never picked up a guitar giving their opinion on how to play it. Get it?

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Not really but that OK.

I'm not surprised.

My entire point to jumping into this mess was that Jeff is entitled to an opinion without having served. That's it. That's all.

Yes, he is entitled to an opinion, and anyone and everyone who has real-world experience and knowledge in this area are entitled to, and IMO expected to, summarily dismiss his opinion as that of someone who has no ****ing clue what they are talking about. Jeff seemed fine with that, and even thanked Z06 for giving him some additional information on the topic. You, however, said Z06's response was "a bullshit response from a fool". In the end, it is you who looks a fool. But that isn't really any of my business, so feel free to drive on!

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by Mick

said Z06's response was "a bullshit response from a fool"

Actually no I didn't. Revisit the thread, read carefully.

Oh well. You were doing OK here adding to the discussion. For a little while anyway. Then this -

I'm not surprised.

*I* am not surprised.

Carry on slugger.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Actually no I didn't. Revisit the thread, read carefully.

Oh well. You were doing OK here adding to the discussion. For a little while anyway. Then this -



*I* am not surprised.

Carry on slugger.

The only worthy response is: