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Old 01-16-2024, 4:24pm   #81
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No one is talking about it because Trump's win in Iowa is irrelevant to them. Trump won, big shock.

What you guys should be asking yourself is why did Trump only get 50%? If he truly had well over 90% of republican support in 2020, what changed? After all, he is an ex-president and the de facto leader of the party. Was that other 50% protest votes as well or is he losing ground?

The results support the polling before the caucuses which say in a Trump/Biden rematch only 71% of republicans polled will vote Trump. Another 11% will vote for Biden and the rest are between Kennedy (8%) and the others.

If Trump couldn't win with well over 90%, I think it was 98%, support in 2020, can he win with only 70%? I know you all think you have the final say on political opinion but many of us think Trump was a train wreck and it appears that a growing number of Republicans may be feeling the same way. Will it be enough to beat him in 2024, we won't know until November.

Time will tell and I don't like polling this far out but this poll is important along with the latest NH poll that had Haley and Trump tied. Also the latest presidential polls have Biden up again.

Just my thoughts, no emotions just asking the questions that people should be considering. I wish we had better choices.
Right out of the book of liberal talking points.

This is exactly what the leftist media is saying today.
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Right out of the book of liberal talking points.

This is exactly what the leftist media is saying today.
Please explain where anything I said is wrong without using emojis, try some logic instead for a change.
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Please explain where anything I said is wrong without using emojis, try some logic instead for a change.
What you posted was not wrong in the mind of a liberal.
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What you posted was not wrong in the mind of a liberal.
Great, explain why it's wrong to a conservative. I challenge you to show me how it's wrong.
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Great, explain why it's wrong to a conservative. I challenge you to show me how it's wrong.
That's what I thought.
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The left will not let him back in the White House
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That's what I thought.
There's the problem from the start.
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There's the problem from the start.
That’s all you got?
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That’s all you got?
Dude, I don't need to have anything. You voted for Biden and still support him. You hate Trump and will not vote for him. Trump will be the republican nominee, (as I been telling everyone for the better part of a year) and you will vote for Biden again.

What does this mean to me? Not a damn thing.

As a person I like you enough. Politically you are a damn fool. You want Romney in heels. You are ZERO help to the conservative cause. You do not want to MAGA.

So all I'm left with is laughter at your foolishness.
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Bill, the issue why this isn't registering with everyone is because they don't think about how exceedingly rare an event last night was. Ex/incumbent presidents don't get challenged in the primary process. When was the last time an ex-president was in a primary, Grover Cleveland in 1885? Was there even an Iowa caucus then, I have no idea.

Look at 2020, there was a caucus and Trump pulled 97%, that's normally what happens with some incumbents pulling 100%. What happened to the 46% that dropped Trump from 2020?

That's the thing Team Trump and his supporters need to figure out as well as how many will vote against him in the general as these numbers support the polling that shows Trump at 71% of likely caucus goers in Iowa with the rest saying they will vote for other candidates.

This is truly uncharted territory.
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How about explaining why this is wrong.
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How about explaining why this is wrong.
I already posted that it is not wrong in the mind of a liberal.
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I already posted that it is not wrong in the mind of a liberal.
Lars, you just won’t see how rare last night was, your smart enough so you either didn’t read my post or chose not to see what Bill and I are talking about.
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Lars, you just won’t see how rare last night was, your smart enough so you either didn’t read my post or chose not to see what Bill and I are talking about.
I read it and understand it. It is pretzel logic to satisfy the minds of the Trump haters.

Let me try to be clear...

IT DOES NOT ****ING MATTER...

Trump IS the nominee. Trump WILL be 47 if the republicans can beat the cheat.
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How about explaining why this is wrong.
If you have enjoyed Biden's time in the White House and the direction our military, economy, healthcare, immigration, integrity as a country, strength, work ethic, educational system, and journalism have evolved, then there is nothing wrong with your vote for Biden. There is definitely something wrong with you though. I'm not poking at you. I am serious. There has to be something wrong with anyone that is satisfied with where we are as a nation and the things I have listed. If you are NOT happy but would for for more of it simply because Trump is abrasive, your issues need professional attention. A normal functioning logical mind simply does NOT work that way.
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If you have enjoyed Biden's time in the White House and the direction our military, economy, healthcare, immigration, integrity as a country, strength, work ethic, educational system, and journalism have evolved, then there is nothing wrong with your vote for Biden. There is definitely something wrong with you though. I'm not poking at you. I am serious. There has to be something wrong with anyone that is satisfied with where we are as a nation and the things I have listed. If you are NOT happy but would for for more of it simply because Trump is abrasive, your issues need professional attention. A normal functioning logical mind simply does NOT work that way.
Thanks for the input, now tell me where I said any of that and answer my question to Lars if you can.

You are assuming a bit much Jeff. I don’t personally feel Trump will improve anything in another term. I would like a better choice than what we’ll have.
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