Who's Bush endorsing ?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by chasc5

it is correct; the 2 war weren’t on the books and the fact that decade long tax breaks hasn’t turned into jobs is an additional fact!

That precisely and specifically what “i” am saying; and if you don’t like it or disagree with what “i” am saying then that’s “your” choiice!

but crying troll to the moderators won’t make me change “my” answer.

wtf??

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

President Obama extending the Tax Cuts - OBVIOUS BAD MOVE
President Obama adding more Troops - BAD MOVE

Now ... you answer one (1) Question for me. If President Obama didn't do either of those things, what would you and all the other Conservatives had said?

So despite the fact that Obama not only willingly agreed and held course on taxes, he actually INCREASED troops in the Middle East, you blame Bush 100% and Obama 0% for both of them...

Yep. That makes perfect sense.


As to your question, for about the 50th time (I know you have trouble remembering things) I am not a Conservative. I do not affiliate myself with the Republican Party. I have many Conservative views but I also disagree with more than a few.

1.) I am for a flat tax. No exceptions. Income = taxes. It's that simple. No breaks, no loopholes, no brackets, no more 50% of Americans not contributing a dime...

2.) I want to see troops out of the Middle East and would have been all for it.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

So despite the fact that Obama not only willingly agreed and held course on taxes, he actually INCREASED troops in the Middle East, you blame Bush 100% and Obama 0% for both of them...

Yep. That makes perfect sense.


As to your question, for about the 50th time (I know you have trouble remembering things) I am not a Conservative. I do not affiliate myself with the Republican Party. I have many Conservative views but I also disagree with more than a few.

1.) I am for a flat tax. No exceptions. Income = taxes. It's that simple. No breaks, no loopholes, no brackets, no more 50% of Americans not contributing a dime...

2.) I want to see troops out of the Middle East and would have been all for it.

And exactly where have you seen that?

I hold President Bush 100% accountable the crap he created.

I hold President Obama 100% accountable for the crap he created.

Sharpen your pencil and add it up.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I hold President Obama 100% accountable for the crap he created.

Link to you holding Obama accountable for ANYTHING?

In this thread you blamed Bush when you added "(+ Residuals from Tax Breaks and 2 Wars)" to Lars' post.

Maybe I just overlooked the part where you mentioned Obama continuing the tax breaks and increasing troops.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Link to you holding Obama accountable for ANYTHING?

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I can't see pictures here, but I'm certain that it is a brilliant post as always...

Good job on showing where you have ever held "President Obama 100% accountable for the crap he created."

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

As to your question, for about the 50th time (I know you have trouble remembering things) I am not a Conservative.
I do not affiliate myself with the Republican Party.
I have many Conservative views but I also disagree with more than a few.

You keep saying you're not a conservative but you make comments like this ...

Big difference. Mrs. Odumbass is a political figure on her own ...

When you start referring to conservatives like this you'll have a bit more ... if anything .. street cred ...

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I can't see pictures here, but I'm certain that it is a brilliant post as always...

Good job on showing where you have ever held "President Obama 100% accountable for the crap he created."

You're Welcome.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

When you start referring to conservatives like this you'll have a bit more ... if anything .. street cred ...

I have, on many occasions, made negative comments about Conservatives.

And no, you and your "street cred" aren't even remotely close to being worth the time of searching and quoting them.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I have, on many occasions, made negative comments about Conservatives.

And no, you and your "street cred" aren't even remotely close to being worth the time of searching and quoting them.

I've been more than honest about myself ... and believe me, name-calling is always fun ... but you have to choose a side ... it's real creepy having to listen to (I)'s or those who profess to be ... (Paulie member Bill Daniels for instance )

There's only 2 (I)'s in Congress ... a former Dem and now a neocon who fakes he isn't so he can keep his job ... Lieberman ... and the other is Sanders who's actually a *real centrist* ...

Us sheeple aren't really entitiled to this choice ...

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Exotix

... but you have to choose a side ...

Us sheeple aren't really entitiled to this choice ...

Bullshit.

BOTH parties are screwed up. Both got us to the mess that we are in today. Voting (R) or (D) down the line is ignorant. What is even more ignorant is not being able to admit that "your guy" or "your party" is wrong about something. The blind following of a party is ridiculous. For some reason, it seems that there are very few Obama supporters who will ever say a bad word about him. Chas and his ignorant f***ing pictures and responses as soon as he gets challenged are a perfect example of that.

I voted for Bush... twice. I also have no problem saying that in my opinion, he was 100% wrong on quite a few issues. With the current political arena, the Republicans are closer to my own beliefs so I lean that way but it doesn't for one second mean that I will vote based on the (R) beside the name. I voted for more than 1 Democrat in the 2010 election. I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head, but I would say I voted at about a 60/40 split favoring the Republicans.... maybe 70/30. I educate myself on the issues and the candidates and I vote for the one that best serves my stance.

I don't give a damn about the (R) or the (D) beside someone's name. I don't want to see Democrats fail when in charge because that means the country fails. I would LOVE to see Obama be the greatest President ever. Why? Because it means that the country wins.

The short answer to your statement is that I don't care at all about the (D) or the (R) beside someone's name. I want what is best for this country... and regardless of what party he represents, Obama is NOT what is best.

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by Exotix

I've been more than honest about myself ... and believe me, name-calling is always fun ... but you have to choose a side ... it's real creepy having to listen to (I)'s or those who profess to be ... (Paulie member Bill Daniels for instance )

There's only 2 (I)'s in Congress ... a former Dem and now a neocon who fakes he isn't so he can keep his job ... Lieberman ... and the other is Sanders who's actually a *real centrist* ...

Us sheeple aren't really entitiled to this choice ...

Wait...Sanders is a centrist?

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Chris Fowler

Wait...Sanders is a centrist?

Well, you're a known right-winger so anything 0.000001 left of center is socialist/communist to you ...

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Bullshit.

The short answer to your statement is that I don't care at all about the (D) or the (R) beside someone's name.

I want what is best for this country... and regardless of what party he represents, Obama is NOT what is best.

Why not ... even his own constituency thinks he's now a right-winger for caving-in to the neocon hobbits on the debt-ceiling deal ...

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Source?

Allow me to post from the neocon site American Thinker ...


NY Times pushes the Bush-Perry feud

Blog: NY Times pushes the Bush-Perry feud

... The fact is the Bush-Perry break began years ago.
Perry has never been a fan of Mr. Bush's "Compassionate Conservativism" -- or as true-blue conservatives term it, "Less Big Government Managed Better."
Perry, it appears, holds old fashioned conservative principles, and less big government is still too big.

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Well, you're a known right-winger so anything 0.000001 left of center is socialist/communist to you ...

I don't care how far to the right I am. The claim that Sanders is a centrist implies that democrats are to the left of his position.

Who are these people that are to the left of Sanders?

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Allow me to post from the neocon site American Thinker ...


NY Times pushes the Bush-Perry feud

Blog: NY Times pushes the Bush-Perry feud

... The fact is the Bush-Perry break began years ago.
Perry has never been a fan of Mr. Bush's "Compassionate Conservativism" -- or as true-blue conservatives term it, "Less Big Government Managed Better."
Perry, it appears, holds old fashioned conservative principles, and less big government is still too big.

That statement sounds an awful lot like Perry denouncing Bush, not the other way around.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Chris Fowler

I don't care how far to the right I am. The claim that Sanders is a centrist implies that democrats are to the left of his position.

Who are these people that are to the left of Sanders?

Have you actually listened to Sanders ?

Got to be the most reality-check congressional member on the circuit today ... say for instance, consistantly reminding America who got us to where are today from 2000 to Nov. 4, 2008 and who took over from that date ...

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Again, missing the point ... the GOP 2012 Prez hopefuls now have to explain and articulate their plan of austerity on America in great detail ... take for instance your state, Texas, where Perry who of course hasn't thrown his hat into the ring, has never addressed his states' debt-crisis (best kept secret so far) ...

Last Jan. when the states' part-time legislature went back into session, and where Texas was starting at potentially a $25 billion deficit on a two-year budget of around $95 billion and where there's not much fat to cut ... and where the whole budget is basically education and healthcare spending ... well, cutting everything else still wouldn't do the trick as cut, cap & balance ...

So although raising the kind of money would be easy on an economy of $1.2 trillion, the model is like the new GOP/Tea Party in Congress who is firmly against raising any revenue ... in other words, the *keep extending the Bush Tax Cuts as a theory until it works* ... the Dems have always called this the *The Sleeper Budget* that seemingly works until the moment before it blows up ...

This is how you blamed the Dems when they came back in to be handed all the GOP crisis's back in 2006/07 ... and are still doing it to this day ...

We have a spending problem not a taxing problem both at the Federal Level for the 53% of Americans paying Federal Income Taxes and in Texas for those that own a home or land such as myself, I do not take from the govt only pay in so those lazy SOBs can get those handouts

[Chris Fowler]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Have you actually listened to Sanders ?

Got to be the most reality-check congressional member on the circuit today ... say for instance, consistantly reminding America who got us to where are today from 2000 to Nov. 4, 2008 and who took over from that date ...

"Blame Bush"...that sounds like the rest of the left...still not a centrist position.

Big government, universal (single payer) healthcare (remember, he was against ObamaCare because it didn't go far enough).

Bernie Sanders is the only person on the left brave enough to actually admit to being a socialist.

And you think he's a centrist.