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Old 07-19-2016, 1:37pm   #41
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I Googled that and couldn't find anything relevant. Did she sight her references in her speech?
Most of Michelles speech was of snipettes from Saul Alinsky. When found out back then, the press covered for her... talking about how Saul was a "visionary"... and an admirable person to be quoting (though Michelle never credited him as the source. She didn't have to, the major news outlets eagerly provided damage control for her).

Trumps wife is only in the news today because the media is trying to stop a non-democrat from getting elected.
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Trumps wife is only in the news today because the media is trying to stop a non-democrat from getting elected.
That, and the hasn't been a plane crash or police shooting...yet.
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Hot for a first lady, but do you really want Trump to run your country ???????????
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but do you really want Hillary to run your country ???????????
Nope.
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Hot for a first lady, but do you really want Trump to run your country ???????????
He pisses off all the right people, he can't be worse than any of the "regular" politicians who have been absolutely horrid of late, and he makes Canadians nervous! Win-win-win!
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I watched with the sound off

(Because she's hot and I could give two shits about anything a First Lady has to say )
So when Bill Clinton does his First Husband spouse speech at the DNC are you gonna watch with the sound on or off???




Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 07-19-2016, 6:53pm   #47
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So when Bill Clinton does his First Husband spouse speech at the DNC are you gonna watch with the sound on or off???




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Pfffftttt...I never listened to Bill Clinton's speeches when he mattered.
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He pisses off all the right people, he can't be worse than any of the "regular" politicians who have been absolutely horrid of late, and he makes Canadians nervous! Win-win-win!
Is that why you guys like him? He pisses off the people you don't agree with?
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He pisses off all the right people, he can't be worse than any of the "regular" politicians who have been absolutely horrid of late, and he makes Canadians nervous! Win-win-win!
Exactly. If the country finally crashes (maybe because of the $ 19T+ national debt we can never, ever pay off), and Trump can't right the ship, at least I'll have the personal satisfaction that I helped give the middle finger to all the Pubs and Dems that ran the US into that iceberg.

Libertarians for Trump!

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Is that why you guys like him? He pisses off the people you don't agree with?
That is an ancillary benefit. I like that he calls a spade a spade and is unapologetic about it. Illegal aliens? Get 'em out of here. When is the last time you heard anyone from either party just bluntly saying they would do it?

Bueller? Bueller?

The same goes for importing potential terrorists. Oh, Trump's a big meanie because he doesn't want to mass import Muslims of questionable personal beliefs?

Trump is a big meanie for supporting the police? Trump is a big meanie because he wants to fix bad trade deals, giant sucking sound, and all that?

Trump is a big meanie because he wants Mexico to pay to help fix the problems they cause us? Hey, Mexico can just go to their safe space and quietly weep while rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
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That, and the hasn't been a plane crash or police shooting...yet.
And then a cop gets shot...and dies...Kansas City...
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That is an ancillary benefit. I like that he calls a spade a spade and is unapologetic about it. Illegal aliens? Get 'em out of here. When is the last time you heard anyone from either party just bluntly saying they would do it?

Bueller? Bueller?

The same goes for importing potential terrorists. Oh, Trump's a big meanie because he doesn't want to mass import Muslims of questionable personal beliefs?

Trump is a big meanie for supporting the police? Trump is a big meanie because he wants to fix bad trade deals, giant sucking sound, and all that?

Trump is a big meanie because he wants Mexico to pay to help fix the problems they cause us? Hey, Mexico can just go to their safe space and quietly weep while rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
Illegal Mexicans may be the biggest problem Texas faces, it's no where near the biggest problem this country faces. And Trump is focusing on this kind of populous nonsense to get elected. Proving to me that he doesn't know what he's getting himself into, he just knows how to play to his crowd.
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And then a cop gets shot...and dies...Kansas City...
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Illegal Mexicans may be the biggest problem Texas faces, it's no where near the biggest problem this country faces. And Trump is focusing on this kind of populous nonsense to get elected. Proving to me that he doesn't know what he's getting himself into, he just knows how to play to his crowd.
The point is, he points out the problems Americans are facing and addresses how he would do something about it. Take coal country. Hillary goes there and pretty much tells the people who still have jobs in the coal industry that she wants to put them all out of work. Trump tells them that the US needs to be energy independent, so he wants coal production to continue. If you put this rag-tag group of policy issues together, you get a stronger US, which is good for all of us, even if your state does not produce coal, or your state isn't flooded with illegals......yet.

Populist platform? Absolutely. Nonsense? Why is it so wrong to put America first for a change? Tell the coal miner or coal mine owner it's nonsense when Hillary's EPA shutters the plant. Tell the school kids it's nonsense when they can't get a good education because illegal alien kids are soaking up all the tax money.
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Illegal Mexicans may be the biggest problem Texas faces, it's no where near the biggest problem this country faces. And Trump is focusing on this kind of populous nonsense to get elected. Proving to me that he doesn't know what he's getting himself into, he just knows how to play to his crowd.
Populous nonsense. OK. Versus what? Socialist nonsense? Or whatever the hell the GOPe have been doing (Pacific Trade Partnership, doing nothing at all about Obamacare, stopping Obama from doing a myriad of illegal things.) But then again, you were for Kasich so I can understand your confusion. He was for, um, something. Won a state.

So far as I can see, Trump is addressing all the big problems our country faces - including illegal immigration. And his proposed solutions piss off all the right people. The people who oppose anything that might result in a solution. People who have sold this country down the river and desperately want to continue doing so. Yes, I want those people pissed off. I want their supporters (enablers) really really mad. Because now they can get a mild taste of how angry they have made normal Americans who see through their machinations.
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The biggest problem Trump (if elected) will face is the massive number of liberal .Gov workers working. It's one thing to put forth an agenda, it's another to get unwilling employees to carry it out.
IF he gets elected, his first order of business should be to issue directives to EVERY agency that failure to carry out the mission as described by the CIC and Dept. head is punishable by termination.
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The biggest problem Trump (if elected) will face is the massive number of liberal .Gov workers working. It's one thing to put forth an agenda, it's another to get unwilling employees to carry it out.
IF he gets elected, his first order of business should be to issue directives to EVERY agency that failure to carry out the mission as described by the CIC and Dept. head is punishable by termination.
I'd love to see federal employee unions made illegal. They should be illegal. It's insane that millions of government employees are essentially immune from the consequences of their individual actions, protected by a union who then lobbies for more government benefits and supports one political party.

But in the case of the INS, there are many many very pissed off INS workers who would love to do their job but they have been stopped from doing so by their Obama-appointed bosses.
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Is that why you guys like him? He pisses off.... socialists?


fixt; and uhh... yep.
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But in the case of the INS, there are many many very pissed off INS workers who would love to do their job but they have been stopped from doing so by their Obama-appointed bosses.
And there's the rub. There's a thing here in DC we call "burrowing". Basically an appointee that sees the writing on the wall, and writes themselves a GS-15 post. They give up the SES position, take a regular .Gov position and create havoc from there. It happens every change of political party.
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