LOL, People actually beleive that kids are not influenced by having gay parents..

[MrPeabody]

Originally Posted by mrvette

I"d be more worried about the typical public school, than most parents.....

WAY more worried.....

Yeah, because there's gay teachers there.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by MrPeabody

Yeah, because there's Liberal/commie/PROGRESSIVE teachers there.

Fixed it......

[FasterTraffic]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

people aren't normal. There's no such thing as normal. Me and my household...are 100% unaffected by who my neighbor marries.

Actually, if a gay couple moves in next door, I assume they would take better care of their landscaping.

Originally Posted by TxAg

That said, get gov't out of marriage for ALL people.

Marriage is a "religious" issue not a gov't issue.

[Vette40th]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

But who are you to define healthy for somebody else?

Smoking? Yeah, there's enough medical evidence that smoking is unhealthy. But even with all the evidence that smoking is unhealthy, you don't go around taking cigarettes away from smokers do you? So why do the same thing to gay couples?

I have personal beliefs on gay marriage. But at the same time I feel no need to push my personal beliefs on anybody else, nor should they to me. So as long as gays aren't trying to preach their way to me, i'm perfectly fine with whatever they do.

Its my opinion, just like everyone else. No proof either way that it is healthy. But I believe you need a mother father family to raise a child. Opinion, nothing more.
Smoking, I say stay on topic, apples/oranges.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Chris Fowler

I'd rather see a same sex couple raise a kid than a single parent as well...

My sister and I were raised by my single father... in a wheelchair. We were not even close to wealthy and all 3 of us worked our asses off to support each other. I wouldn't trade a single second of my upbringing with any other person on the planet.

Saying that we would have been better off if we were raised by 2 gay men (or women) simply because there would be 2 of them is absolutely ignorant.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Marriage is a "religious" issue not a gov't issue.

Nor is it a "Right"

I personally feel it will cause undeniable damage to a kids outlook on what is a normal healthy family relationship.

Yeah? How so?

all 3 of us worked our asses off to support each other

Knock this shit off. I'm trying to think you're a douche.

[carlton_fritz]

Originally Posted by theanswriz42

It never ceases to amaze me how much people about what other people do when it has little to no effect on the rest of society.

As far as I'm concerned, someone's belief in god is as irrational as giving a damn that someone is gay. Of all the issues in the world, I don't think who someone has sex with, or what god someone might believe in is even close to the top of the list of things to worry about.

And now it's time for a move to PR&C.

[carlton_fritz]

Originally Posted by MrPeabody

Or be raised by most of the heterosexual married couples I know.

Who says that same sex couples will be better?

[carlton_fritz]

Originally Posted by Chris Fowler

I'd rather see a same sex couple raise a kid than a single parent as well...

Why? Some single parents are that way due to the spouse dying in some manner, such as war. That doesn't make them bad.

[MrPeabody]

Originally Posted by carlton_fritz

Who says that same sex couples will be better?

I do. You would, too if you knew the hetero couples I'm talking about. A pack of wolves would be better.

[carlton_fritz]

Originally Posted by MrPeabody

I do. You would, too if you knew the hetero couples I'm talking about. A pack of wolves would be better.

My point is that being straight or gay does not make a person a good parent. The gay couple that raise a child might be just as bad as the hetero couples you know.



BTW, you need to get better friends and drop those bad parent couples.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Knock this shit off. I'm trying to think you're a douche.

I'm sure it won't be long before I add some ammo to the douche argument...

Originally Posted by carlton_fritz

Why? Some single parents are that way due to the spouse dying in some manner, such as war. That doesn't make them bad.

The reason that a parent is single doesn't matter at all. My sister and I were raised by my dad as told above because my mother felt a lot of things were more important than her family and took off out the front door (it actually took me a while to find a PC way to word that).

The reason she wasn't around didn't at all negatively impact the job that my father did in raising us. If anything, it made us closer.

[theanswriz42]

Originally Posted by carlton_fritz

My point is that being straight or gay does not make a person a good parent. The gay couple that raise a child might be just as bad as the hetero couples you know.



BTW, you need to get better friends and drop those bad parent couples.

Having seen gay friends go through the process to adopt a child, it's WAY harder for them than heterosexual couples. Trust me, they're infinitely more likely to be better parents if they are willing to put themselves through the hell that is the process of adoption for them.

[Jeff '79]

As much as I hate to think about gay males, as it totally repulses me, people are animals...Period.
Even though we have brains that make us the top of the food chain, we are still animals, and are subject to genetics. Our genes predispose us to what we are....
Can the government control that, or can religion stop that ?

I think not.
To the point of two gay people raising kids better that heteros ?

Gimme a break..... A shit head is a shithead, gay or not.

[69camfrk]

Originally Posted by NeedSpeed

I'm for gay marriage, ..., I'd so watch gay divorce court.

He uthed to be tho thooper, now not tho muth!!!

[MrPeabody]

Originally Posted by carlton_fritz

My point is that being straight or gay does not make a person a good parent. The gay couple that raise a child might be just as bad as the hetero couples you know.



BTW, you need to get better friends and drop those bad parent couples.

I didn't say they were friends. I said I know of them. My wife was an OB nurse and my stepdaughter runs the family birth center at the local hospital, and you wouldn't believe the stories they have to tell. And you're right, two gay people can be bad people just as well as two hetero people. But any adoptive parent, gay or straight, is scrutinized more than some of the people who just ranomly produce kids.

[Joecooool]

I came into this thread expecting to see the knuckle daggers bitching about "fags" and "fuk gay rights".

I must say I am pleasantly surprised.

[carlton_fritz]

Originally Posted by MrPeabody

I didn't say they were friends. I said I know of them. My wife was an OB nurse and my stepdaughter runs the family birth center at the local hospital, and you wouldn't believe the stories they have to tell. And you're right, two gay people can be bad people just as well as two hetero people. But any adoptive parent, gay or straight, is scrutinized more than some of the people who just ranomly produce kids.

Unless they are celebrities.

[MrPeabody]

Originally Posted by carlton_fritz

Unless they are celebrities.

You got that right, but that includes a lot of the heteros, too. I think it's crazy that Rosie O'Donnel was given kids to raise, but I also think it was crazy to give one to Burt Reynolds and Loni Anderson. One can only hope they will be raised well by the high paid nannys they have.

[HeatherO]

personally...raising kids is a job for two person 'team'...who gives a crap what gender they are?? I surely don't.
I raised my kids, for the most part, by myself...They aren't horrible people, sure they've made mistakes just like anyone else, but I don't think they are worse off because their father decided he didn't want to be part of a 'team'