California to ban new natural gas furnaces and water heaters

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by Learpilot

But the weather is nice

Yes, the weather cannot be beat, pretty much.

But I'd rather have a bit of weather than be oppressed and discriminated against.

[BRUIZER]

Originally Posted by Learpilot

The trend is that people are leaving and certainly Ca. Needs every tax dollar they can get.

You're leaving out the other side of the equation;
How many people relocate to CA at the same time as those leaving?...oops.

I'll never comprehend how some view millions MORE people relocating into already overcrowded cities is "a good thing".

The increased inhabitants, regardless of political ideology NEVER results in more freedom and liberties ie improved quality of life longterm. Higher taxes, more crime and debauchery is ALWAYS the end result. GLWT.

[04 commemorative]

Originally Posted by Learpilot

Again............a nice way for the Peoples Republik to steal more of the peoples money.

Well, that's another topic I think

[BRUIZER]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

Yes, the weather cannot be beat, pretty much.

But I'd rather have a bit of weather than be oppressed and discriminated against.

People are literally fleeing and boarding chit up because of current weather conditions in FL. Yet some find that normal.

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by BRUIZER

You're leaving out the other side of the equation;
How many people relocate to CA at the same time as those leaving?...oops.

I'll never comprehend how some view millions MORE people relocating into already overcrowded cities is "a good thing".

The increased inhabitants, regardless of political ideology NEVER results in more freedom and liberties ie improved quality of life longterm. Higher taxes, more crime and debauchery is ALWAYS the end result. GLWT.

You really need to read thru this thread again

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by BRUIZER

You're leaving out the other side of the equation;
How many people relocate to CA at the same time as those leaving?...oops.

I'll never comprehend how some view millions MORE people relocating into already overcrowded cities is "a good thing".

The increased inhabitants, regardless of political ideology NEVER results in more freedom and liberties ie improved quality of life longterm. Higher taxes, more crime and debauchery is ALWAYS the end result. GLWT.

Workers and taxpayers and productive people, like the head of Google and Elon Musk, and even Pelosi, are leaving CA. The ones coming in are not workers. They are fentanyl carrying criminals who get on welfare, have anchor babies, and do crimes. It's like trading that stupid lesbian basketball player busted in Russia for a Master spy: it's totally lopsided. We lose good people and gain parasites. It's not sustainable.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

Yes, the weather cannot be beat, pretty much.

But I'd rather have a bit of weather than be oppressed and discriminated against.

So sell your house and GTFO. Go be Steeb's neighbor in Florida.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

It must be the homeless leaving.

I wish.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

What shit hole do you live in? No empty houses anywhere near me in California. Where are all these empty houses of people leaving California?

Where did I say anything about empty houses?

Learn to read, moron.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by BRUIZER

You're leaving out the other side of the equation;
How many people relocate to CA at the same time as those leaving?...oops.

I'll never comprehend how some view millions MORE people relocating into already overcrowded cities is "a good thing".

The increased inhabitants, regardless of political ideology NEVER results in more freedom and liberties ie improved quality of life longterm. Higher taxes, more crime and debauchery is ALWAYS the end result. GLWT.

Explain away the fact that CA lost a seat in the House.

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

The state loves it when houses are sold. Property tax is based on the current value of sold house.

So what you're saying that they are ripping people off.Sorry but I could care less if the State loves it.

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

Gladly lose a house seat to get rid of low-income and homeless to other states.

Youre state has turned into a SHITHOLE and there is NOTHING you can do about it except change leadership.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

The state loves it when houses are sold. Property tax is based on the current value of sold house.

A spot where florida shines. A little thing called the homestead act and assessed value portability.

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

California is turning into a state of financially well-off citizens with a medium home value close to $ million.
Lear, happy you are welcoming our lower-income people who have to move.

I think you were trying to say smart upper income conservatives.

[BRUIZER]

Originally Posted by Learpilot

You really need to read thru this thread again

Oh I agree with you (and others) on how f'd up the political climate and large cities are. My only point was the fact your skewing facts once you calculate the difference of those exiting vs entering. It's a tiny fraction of a difference of less than 0.5% of the total population. Hardly makes any difference in a state of 39+ MILLION. Honestly, the state could trim 10 million residents just to begin with. Eventually they'll be forced to cut spending errrr uhhh stealing.
There is nfw I could reside for more than a few weeks at a time near millions in ANY state regardless of politics, weather etc.

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

It must be the homeless leaving. There are not many empty houses in California. Every home that goes for sale by me gets sold quickly for over $million.

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

What shit hole do you live in? No empty houses anywhere near me in California. Where are all these empty houses of people leaving California?

Exactly. Plenty of cities with low crime and full capacity in various cities of both CA and FL.
Inland of coastal communities in OC are now nearing $1mm for a smaller 2brm sfr. ..f'ing insane. 1bdr apartments are north of $2k now.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

California still has Prop 13; your property assessment can only go up 2% yearly until you sell your property. Being California property prices have been booming for decades, it's not a bad deal.

This is the first true statement you've made in this entire thread.
Congratulations.

My 49 cent-per KWh rate is second tier, which is more than 50% of my monthly cost. I get no credits whatsoever. House is a 2200sf single level with dual pane windows and a whole house fan. It's energy efficient enough that I don't even need to use the AC on 90-95 degree days, as the house stays at 74-80.
When I DO need to run the AC, on 100-115 degree days, it really costs me. And I have it set to 80 degrees. I live in Central Ca. Still have a house in the SF Bay Area that I am selling as soon as I can. I want the hell OUT of there as a landlord, who in the eyes of Coastal Liberals, is a villain.

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

Smart ones might move to Florida for seven months out of the year. Lower-income people do not have the luxury of moving when hot, humid weather hits with a bug infestation.

110 in your shithole state this year
Summer is beautiful here plenty of beautiful beaches to travel too.

[BRUIZER]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Explain away the fact that CA lost a seat in the House.

Explain how MILLIONS relocating to your overcrowded communities enhances your longterm quality of life.

It simply makes the cost of living MORE expensive while quality of life decreases. Yet some brag about this as if a good thing?? Many residing longterm in FL (my grandparents for one in Fort Meyers beach area) complain about the now crowded conditions. Be careful what you wish for.

[Learpilot]

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by StorytellerStealth

Lear, California has no shortage of beautiful beaches that actually have waves you can surf on. I live on the water, no stranger to beaches.

BS !! The water there is 60'to 70 degrees and you need a wetsuit to surf.I have been from San Diego to Eureka and there is nothing like this in Kally.