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Old 06-16-2022, 10:21am   #1
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Model 3, S, Y, and X cars are affected

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Tesla has raised the prices of select Model 3, Model Y, Model X, and Model S vehicles, Electrek reports. The largest price increase affects the Model X Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive version, which saw a $6,000 increase from $114,990 to $120,990, while the Model S Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive configuration increased by $5,000 from $99,990 to $104,990. Tesla’s most affordable car, the Model 3, was spared from the most severe increases.

One version of the Model 3 is seeing an increase, however. The Long Range version of the Model 3 increased in price by $2,500 from $54,490 to $57,990. However the price of the most affordable Model 3 version sold online, the Rear-Wheel Drive model, is staying the same at $46,990. That was the price it rose to during Tesla’s last major round of price increases in March.

The Long Range Model Y is also increasing from $62,990 to $65,990 (a $3,000 price increase), while the Performance model is up by $2,000 from $67,990 to $69,990.

Price increases like these have been relatively common across Tesla’s lineup in recent years. A year ago the company’s CEO Elon Musk blamed them on supply chain pressures, with the cost of raw materials and the global chip shortage proving particularly problematic. This year, the manufacturer has to contend with rising inflation and transportation costs in the US and around the world putting upward pressure on its bottom line. Elon Musk has yet to comment (read: tweet) publicly about the latest price increases.

It was a very different situation just a few short years ago when Tesla was cutting the price of its most affordable Model 3 in an attempt to make it an affordable option for the mass-market. Now, though, the company’s prices are a long way away from the $35,000 starting price it was targeting for so many years.

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Demand for Teslas is through the roof and the waiting list can be a year or more.

I would be surprised if prices did not go up.
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I still haven't placed an order, and it doesn't look good for this week.

Oh, hey, @Rob! How's your Cybertruck?
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$65,000.00 for a Tesla = $13,859 gallons of gas at current prices. At the rate I consume gas, that is 3464 days of driving back and forth to work. At 261 work days per year, that much gas will equate to 13.3 more years of work. I'll be 73 and probably not driving much after retirement so...yeah, I don't see a Tesla in my future.
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wait for the increases in electricity to come; it will cost a lot more to charge an all electric vehicle.
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No waiting to pick up our Kia EV6. Yeah, it's a Kia, but it is SOLID. Higher speed charging with the 800 kwh architecture (most cars are 400 kwh, so I can charge to 80% in about 18 minutes. Most power around here is hydro or nuclear (TVA), so not burning coal. For 3,000 miles, we've only spent $26.00 in electricity to charge.

Given that I spent $1,800 in three weeks of traveling out west, I'm happy with our purchase. We don't have to buy gas for my truck unless we're camping so we're saving money by using the EV6 for everything around town and even trips where we don't need the truck's hauling capabilities.

Yeah, I know. It's a Kia. It's electric. But it is plenty fast for my wife AWD/dual motor option, VERY well made and solid, has local dealer support 3 miles from our house, and is saving us the worries of gas prices. They're not everybody's preference and they are not a catch-all solution for everybody and every need. But it's working for us.
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wait for the increases in electricity to come; it will cost a lot more to charge an all electric vehicle.
Can't wait for rates to go up for everyone so we can pay for infrastructure so neighbors can charge theirs. Duke has doubled our rates in a decade already
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Which has increased more: electric rates or gasoline prices?
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I still haven't placed an order, and it doesn't look good for this week.

Oh, hey, @Rob! How's your Cybertruck?
Still on order
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Tesla and all electric cars can suck it. Until they can do this ****'em:



3 minutes to fill up and have full range of 400 miles. **** electric cars, when I'm on a trip I want to get to my destination in the least amount of time and I sure as hell don't want to sit at any charging station for 30 minutes or more to get only half a charge. **** THAT.

And BTW - Let the market decide. Both ICE and electric cars can live together. When government and their false climate change agenda starts ****ing with my choice that is where I have a BIGGGGGGGG problem.
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Keep that Tesla shit down over here. We don't want to bring the guy from the other place here.
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$65,000.00 for a Tesla = $13,859 gallons of gas at current prices. At the rate I consume gas, that is 3464 days of driving back and forth to work. At 261 work days per year, that much gas will equate to 13.3 more years of work. I'll be 73 and probably not driving much after retirement so...yeah, I don't see a Tesla in my future.
If you buy the Tesla, you'll have to keep working longer before you retire, so it all kinda works out!
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$65,000.00 for a Tesla = $13,859 gallons of gas at current prices. At the rate I consume gas, that is 3464 days of driving back and forth to work. At 261 work days per year, that much gas will equate to 13.3 more years of work. I'll be 73 and probably not driving much after retirement so...yeah, I don't see a Tesla in my future.
Riiiiight... Because in EV Hater Fantasy World brand new ICE vehicles are available for free.

P.S. That's 13,859 gallons (without the dollar sign).

Try your post again when you're sober.
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$65,000.00 for a Tesla = $13,859 gallons of gas at current prices. ...
That's about 5 times more gas than I've put in my Vette and it's going to be 20 years old soon. Still runs like a charm. Wonder how many batteries replacements that would required? Sounds like changing out the motor instead of the oil
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Riiiiight... Because in EV Hater Fantasy World brand new ICE vehicles are available for free.

P.S. That's 13,859 gallons (without the dollar sign).

Try your post again when you're sober.
But he already owns a car and you can get a lot of decent cars for half that…
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Tesla and all electric cars can suck it. Until they can do this fuck'em:



3 minutes to fill up and have full range of 400 miles. Fuck electric cars, when I'm on a trip I want to get to my destination in the least amount of time and I sure as hell don't want to sit at any charging station for 30 minutes or more to get only half a charge. FUCK THAT.

And BTW - Let the market decide. Both ICE and electric cars can live together. When government and their false climate change agenda starts fucking with my choice that is where I have a BIGGGGGGGG problem.
I'm the first to admit ICE and EV cars can, will, and should co-exist. EV's aren't for everybody. We love ours with the 300 mile range it has, and 20 minute charging time gives us time to use the restroom, shop, eat, whatever when we stop on a long drive. Nevermind that I can charge at home any other time. Unless you have a gas tank pump at home, you're not filling up at home. So that tradeoff is nice.

For those who do a LOT of long-range driving, especially out west, where chargers are further apart, forcing specific routes to be able to charge, it doesn't make sense yet. For a commuter car, in-town car, and one that can handle occasional long trips, they're great.

As for hauling, EV's are nowhere close yet. Rivian, Ford - yeah they're trying, but once you slap a travel trailer on the back of either of them, kiss ANY decent range goodbye. And THAT is not ready for primetime technology-wise. When I can tow a travel trailer at LEAST as far as I get on a tank of gas in my truck, I'll have the ICE-powered engine. Well, and in my Jeep. THAT isn't going anywhere either. LOL

But I'll continue to say, that having the EV seriously cuts down the amount of gas we buy overall because I'm not driving my truck for around town crap to the grocery store, concert, whatever unless it is Lowes, Home Depot, or a major Costco run. The EV does all the running around. And it gets a lot of positive looks and comments (and questions).

If the .gov wants to give me a 7,500 rebate on the vehicle AND a 1,000 tax credit for installation of a home charger (making it free), sure.

But I still want a 3/4 pickup truck for that trailer! LOL
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I'm the first to admit ICE and EV cars can, will, and should co-exist. EV's aren't for everybody. We love ours with the 300 mile range it has, and 20 minute charging time gives us time to use the restroom, shop, eat, whatever when we stop on a long drive. Nevermind that I can charge at home any other time. Unless you have a gas tank pump at home, you're not filling up at home. So that tradeoff is nice.

For those who do a LOT of long-range driving, especially out west, where chargers are further apart, forcing specific routes to be able to charge, it doesn't make sense yet. For a commuter car, in-town car, and one that can handle occasional long trips, they're great.

As for hauling, EV's are nowhere close yet. Rivian, Ford - yeah they're trying, but once you slap a travel trailer on the back of either of them, kiss ANY decent range goodbye. And THAT is not ready for primetime technology-wise. When I can tow a travel trailer at LEAST as far as I get on a tank of gas in my truck, I'll have the ICE-powered engine. Well, and in my Jeep. THAT isn't going anywhere either. LOL

But I'll continue to say, that having the EV seriously cuts down the amount of gas we buy overall because I'm not driving my truck for around town crap to the grocery store, concert, whatever unless it is Lowes, Home Depot, or a major Costco run. The EV does all the running around. And it gets a lot of positive looks and comments (and questions).

If the .gov wants to give me a 7,500 rebate on the vehicle AND a 1,000 tax credit for installation of a home charger (making it free), sure.

But I still want a 3/4 pickup truck for that trailer! LOL
Some can't afford a "commuter car" that cost $30,000+ just to save a few $$$ and a long distance car. In the end our you really saving money? Even at $5 a gallon it would take YEARS and YEARS to save enough money from not buying gas to get your ROI on an EV.
You can take my ICE from my cold dead fingers because I'm not ever going to buy an EV unless they can charge TO FULL under 3 minutes and get at least 400 miles range on one charge. And I'll fight our tyrants if they try to force this on us.
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Some can't afford a "commuter car" that cost $30,000+ just to save a few $$$ and a long distance car. In the end our you really saving money? Even at $5 a gallon it would take YEARS and YEARS to save enough money from not buying gas to get your ROI on an EV.
You can take my ICE from my cold dead fingers because I'm not ever going to buy an EV unless they can charge TO FULL under 3 minutes and get at least 400 miles range on one charge. And I'll fight our tyrants if they try to force this on us.
My wife got rid of her other car prior to this one and realized she liked having the independence of her own car. She just chose to go electric this time, so she's not having to buy gas as much. The side benefit is me not having to drive my truck for in-town crap, where it really sucks the gas. I have NO plans to get rid of my truck (or my offroad Jeep Wrangler) any time soon, for much the same reasons you note Charlton Heston style.

You talk about $30,000 cars here, yet you're on a Corvette forum - cars that do cost over $30,000. Just observing. Many here do drive them every day as commuter cars and not just garage queens (though there are a lot of them here too LOL).

And my ICE truck has NEVER filled in 3 minutes or less - not with a 26 gallon tank. Not sure what kind of car you're driving that fills up in 3 minutes unless it is a Chevy Cruze or Ford Focus with a tiny tank. And even at full capacity, my truck has rarely gotten 400 mpg for in town driving. Highway, yeah it can if I'm light on the pedal.

But I get your point. And I agree charge times and battery capacities are THE biggest hurdles right now, followed closely by those values while TOWING something - my biggest issue.

But I will still contend, for around town driving and occasional long trips, the EV's are pretty nice. And it is NOT slow.

It's nice to have the option of alternate fuel choices, so that when things get screwy like they have been, and will be again, there are other ways to work around it. I don't want anything forced down our throats either, but with tax incentives and rebates, it sure makes it a more attractive alternative that are at least worth considering IF you are in the market for a vehicle.

But I will say, the issues you note are probably the modern day equivalent of what people said when the transition from horse/buggy to the first cars were. "It'd better be able to go XX far before I have to fill it compared to giving the horse water and food/I'd better be able to have a place to store it, like I can my horse and buggy in the barn." LOL

New technology leads to uncertainty for some. Another reason it shouldn't be mandated. Some, like you, just don't want to get rid of that which is different from what works. But at the same time, that is not a reason to dismiss it either.
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