Official Presidential Debate Thread

[Cybercowboy]

LOL check the Drudge Report right now. This is the top link.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Z06David

It's a shame that we more than likely won't see these videos on the MSM. I think even Fox cancelled the showing of this yesterday.

Ted Cruz has tweeted them so perhaps TxAg will see them now.

[Cybercowboy]

For anyone who watches the second O'Keefe video and wants to know how Bob Creamer fits into all of this, you need to do a bit (a tiny bit thanks to Wikileaks) of digging. Fortunately, the weaponized autists at reddit have done the work for you.

Note that Creamer ties in directly to the DNC and Hillary campaign. He's their fixer. He's the guy that coordinates (illegally) the various PACs with the DNC and Podesta/Hillary campaign for various *ahem* activities. Like, you know, fomenting a riot in Chicago to disrupt a Trump rally, resulting in many injuries and property damage. This is RICO-level corruption. Also Hillary's campaign cut checks for some of the people's plane tickets, salary, and burner phones who later bragged about orchestrating these very riots and "protests" at other places like Arizona and Florida.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by TxAg

And why would I care just because Ted did it?

I'm not a Cruz homer/fanboy.

Sorry to disappoint your false assertion.

It was the Cruz campaign that used almost the exact same verbiage as you do about the Supreme Court and Trump. Pretty much exact.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Waco

This exact line of thinking is why what you say is ignored by many. Correlating uncorrelated events just because "conspiracy".

LOL OK, but I've already hashed out the whole SC thing with TxAg before (he's wrong) and when I saw him - again - trying to say that we don't know who will appoint better SC justices (Hillary or Trump), which is frankly insane, I chose not to respond. Instead, being the funny guy I am, saw that just about then Cruz re-tweeted the O'Keefe videos I just mentioned in this old yet reinvigorated thread.

I honestly don't know what it would take to change minds like TxAg or Waco, so I don't try. If someone at this point in the election is thinking that Hillary would be something we can survive as a country, because if Trump got in it would be worse, well that person is someone who operates from such a foreign mindset that I'm pretty sure we operate from entirely different motivations and insights. The step-by-step thing is so completely coherent and inarguable that really it is just about the simplest thing one can imagine.

Hillary wins, she appoints 3-4 SC judges. Tens of millions of forever D-voting immigrants will flood in, given immediate voting rights, and you'll be racist and un-American if you say one damn word about it. That's it. It's over. Finito. Within 20 more years it will be illegal to be a conservative or whatever you want to call it. There will be essentially no 2nd amendment, the 1st will resemble nothing we'd recognize today. The internet will be extremely different from today, as we are just getting a taste of it as Silicon Valley is in full cahoots with the Democrats, which is why Twitter, Facebook, Google, and reddit are completely infected inside and out. Trending twitter tags are immediately shot down if they help Trump. Facebook deletes user accounts that are pro-Trump all the time, using the flimsiest of excuses. Google buries whatever they want, and changes search suggestions almost in real time to make it hard to find stuff that goes against the chosen political narrative they want.

You think this is conspiracy stuff. It's not. It's happening, and it will only get worse. Heck, we just turned over control of the internet, at a fundamental level, to the UN. Bet that works out great! Obamacare was made to fail, and in the latest Wikileaks Hillary actually is rooting for it to fail, as long as it can be blamed on a Republican-sponsored bill. Did you know that? Bet not.

All the stuff that was conspiracy talk, like the media was in total coordination with the Democrats, all true. Hell, Hillary's campaign paid agitators to start riots. All true.

So, it takes the processing power of a twig to look forward to what another 4-8 years of either a Hillary presidency or even a GOPe uniparty presidency would have given us. If someone can't see that, after all the information that is available, they aren't trying or don't care.

[Cybercowboy]

Here's a "poll". How's Trump fairing against Hillary in Florida in early voting? Something that always seems to be heavily friendly to democrats. Welp, let's see.

Oh, OK. Yeah, those Florida polls that show Hillary up by +58 must be right, right? LOL

Eh, that article is from Oct. 5th and guess what? Google "florida early voting results" and you'll see what I mean about what Google is doing on basic searches like this.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Waco

Funny, that search reveals a pretty even split of articles written to favor one versus the other. Your conspiracies are just that.

None of them actually give the current numbers.

Sigh.

Then click on the top results "more news" link, which is what a lot of people do. See? This is basic stuff they do.

Also they mess with the "auto-complete" all the time. Also did you know that Hillary had one of Google's top execs on her list of potential VP choices? He was in one of the food groups Podesta organized them in (his words.) Bernie was in his one food group at the bottom. If you think Google isn't totally in the tank for the democrats and actively influencing search results (among other things), you probably think Mark Zuckerberg is non-partisan.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Waco

Really? I see current poll numbers for the top 10 articles. Even the ones that have Hillary ads all over the place are ceding the early polls to Trump.

WTF do you see? Are you looking at old articles or something?

No, the first two are from Political Insider (no numbers) and Politico (no numbers, vaguely suggesting Trump might be doing slightly better in Florida) and then it's all old stuff from September and half-way down it's about the primaries or whatever.

But if you click on the top link's "More news for Florida early voting results" it's just pretty much Clinton is killing.

This is what they've been doing. It's subtle.

[Cybercowboy]

More conspiracy stuff...

The government has your best wishes at heart, if they had one. Which they don't.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Waco

It's not what I see.

I would laugh if they tend to troll people who search conspiracy stuff...by making it look like there really is one.

The problem with laughing at and poo-pooing conspiracy theorists is, a significant amount of the time they are proven correct. Remember when it was a far fetched conspiracy theory that the US government was spying on everyone all the time? Yeah, me too.....then Snowden proved it was fact, not theory. These Wikileaks are proving other theories to be fact, almost daily.

Remember when we thought the Bernie supporters just had sour grapes when they accused Hillary of colluding with the DNC? Yeah, me too. And then we found out it was true.

Now excuse me, I've got to adjust my tinfoil hat.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TxAg

And why would I care just because Ted did it?

I'm not a Cruz homer/fanboy.

Sorry to disappoint your false assertion.

@TxAg:

I still haven't heard any cogent argument or theory why Trump would NOT dance with the one that brung him, in regards to the SCOTUS appointments. I don't see what he has to gain by winning, then telling America, "surprise, here's my appointment, wise Latina dos (or equivalent)."

[VatorMan]

It is what it is. All the information is out there available to anyone that wants to look. Those that have, know which way they will vote. Those that refuse to look know which way they will vote.
As a .Gov employee I know it's in my best interest to have H.C. elected. As a father and Grandfather I know it's in my prodigies best interest to vote Trump.

This is a reallly easy decision for me.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

It is what it is. All the information is out there available to anyone that wants to look. Those that have, know which way they will vote. Those that refuse to look know which way they will vote.
As a .Gov employee I know it's in my best interest to have H.C. elected. As a father and Grandfather I know it's in my prodigies best interest to vote Trump.

This is a reallly easy decision for me.

Just curious but why as a .gov employee is HC an advantage?

My entire customer base is government based and I know for me, budgets will blow wide open if Trump is elected and it will be green grass and high tides. How does it impact your job?

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Just curious but why as a .gov employee is HC an advantage?

My entire customer base is government based and I know for me, budgets will blow wide open if Trump is elected and it will be green grass and high tides. How does it impact your job?

Well, if HC is elected, our Greenhouse gas division gets additional funding. So does our Computer Security funding ( hint,hint) Obamas Federal greening initiitave gets extra funding, etc...

We've actually had conversations based on which candidate is chosen which projects to peruse.

[Admiral Blue]

Waco. Dude. Waco up.

What cyber has posted is not conspiracy.

I'll spare you of it because you will not trust my first hand knowledge or his facts...so go do some research of your own and prove it false.

[Aerovette]

It would seem falsely reporting polls or skewing numbers would be counter productive. I think people behind Trump will double down and make sure they vote and get others out to vote as well. I guess the intended result is that Trump followers bail because they are convinced he can't win.

[VatorMan]

Trump also said the magic words I've been waiting to hear. Term limits for congress and no former congress can lobby for 5 years after leaving office.

He should lead the debate with that statement and continue it throughout the night.




Plus he should mention this: Witness: DNC tour bus dumps human waste into storm drain - CBS46 News

Shows what the whole staff thinks about the public.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

Trump also said the magic words I've been waiting to hear. Term limits for congress and no former congress can lobby for 5 years after leaving office.

He should lead the debate with that statement and continue it throughout the night.




Plus he should mention this: Witness: DNC tour bus dumps human waste into storm drain - CBS46 News

Shows what the whole staff thinks about the public.

As usual Trump is 111% correct on the lobby , and that tour bus is funny in that it shows the stupid of them......like some years ago pulling outta a camp ground, some motor home somehow left the waste gate open and dropped shit and toilet water all over the exit road, in front of the management office, etc.....man what a SMELL from HELL!!!!

[Stangkiller]

Originally Posted by aerovette

It would seem falsely reporting polls or skewing numbers would be counter productive. I think people behind Trump will double down and make sure they vote and get others out to vote as well. I guess the intended result is that Trump followers bail because they are convinced he can't win.

My wife and I are voting for Gary Johnson so long as Texas still appears to be behind Trump, and Or it appears the vote even matters, otherwise I will be holding my nose and very regretfully voting for the turd sand which over the douche.

It's time to send a very clear message the Republican Party is dead. That said, the message shouldn't come inspite of or best interests.

[Vette40th]

Trump is a 3rd party candidate. Rnc hates him. He is using them as any good business model would. He knows some will vote R, just because they will.