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Old 09-07-2023, 6:54pm   #1
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Angry Liberty safe owners

Nice bit of info gathered by Charlie Kirk.

I say it's time to "bud light" them.
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I noticed several of the conservative talk radio folks dropped them a little while back.
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That suks a big one!! I used to be a dealer for them when they first came out. They were excellent safes with great customer service.
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I only keep giant black cock dildos in my safe.

Jokes on them.
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Per Fox News, it’s even worse

Gun safe company hit with backlash for providing FBI with code to customer's safe

Americans have lost trust in criminal justice system; optics matter: ex-FBI agent
Former FBI Special Agent Nicole Parker discusses the indictment charges against former President Trump from the Jan. 6 special counsel probe.
Popular gun safe company Liberty Safe is facing intense backlash after providing the Federal Bureau of Investigation with the password to a customer's safe at the law enforcement agency's request, and conservative influencers are now calling for boycotting the

Outrage against the Utah-based safe manufacturer began Monday after conservative commentators Keith and Kevin Hodge, known as the Hodge Twins, posted the revelation on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

"Last week, a friend of ours was raided by the feds over J6, his name is Nathan Hughes and he’s from Fayetteville, Arkansas," the post reads, which notes in the report that "The feds called the manufacturer of his Liberty Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol over 2 1/2 years ago."


Nathan Hughes himself confirmed the story the next day, saying in a video posted on X that Liberty Safe gave the FBI "a master code to get into my gun safe." He added, "Pretty crazy, didn't know safe companies would do that, so I feel like a lot of our gun safes are not actually safe."




Liberty Safe admitted in a statement Tuesday that it gave the FBI the access code to the safe of an individual for whom the FBI had a warrant to search their property after receiving the agency's request on Aug. 30.

"Liberty Safe is devoted to protecting the personal property and 2nd amendment rights of our customers and has repeatedly denied requests for access codes without a warrant in the past," the statement reads. "We do not give out combinations without proper legal documentation being provided by authorities."


The statement did not appease Liberty's critics, who immediately began calling for boycotting the company in the same fashion as Bud Light, which has suffered substantial losses in sales after the Anheuser-Busch InBev brand partnered with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney earlier this year in a marketing effort that caused many beer drinkers to shun it.



"[A]bsent a court order, you weren’t required to give them anything," Sean Davis, co-founder of The Federalist, replied in response to Liberty's initial statement. "You voluntarily gave out a combination over a warrant, per your own release, that didn’t apply to you or your property. Maybe start marketing your stuff as Bud Light storage."


Michael Seifert, founder of conservative online marketplace PublicSq., agreed.

"No Safe company should ever have access to the property of their customers, let alone sell them out to the feds," Seifert wrote on X in reaction to Liberty's statement. "It's an unbelievable breach of privacy. Give them the Bud Light treatment."

Liberty's X account continued to be bombarded with angry messages from users on Wednesday, and late that evening the company posted a three-page statement in response to the pushback and announced changes to its policies.



The company said in its statement that it "has long adhered to industry standards by maintaining a secure database of factory-set combinations" as a courtesy to customers who might need them for various reasons, but that effective immediately, existing customers may visit the website and "fill out the form to have records of their access codes expunged."

"We have also revised our policies around cooperation with law enforcement," Liberty's statement reads. "Going forward we will require a subpoena that legally compels Liberty Safe to supply access codes but can only do so if these codes still exist in our system."
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A day late and a dollar short. Crash and burn Liberty safes
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This is the video of the arrest of the gym owner that precipitated Liberty Safe Co. turning over his safe combo:




Look at the overkill SWAT team. These ****s arrested a guy who went to the J6 protest who did NOT damage anything or hurt anyone. In full kit. With their assault rifles at the ready. It's infuriating.

And this commentator, while occasionally coming across as a douchebag, is absolutely correct on the facts. They turned off the guy's video surveillance. Why? What are they afraid of you and I seeing?
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I won't be buying their products
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Well, wont buy any of their shit again.
Liberty Safe is owned by Monomoy Capital Partners in NYC.

Ten bucks says that this "protocol" (as they called it in their statement) came down from the 10th floor in NYC, from some MBA, who could not care any less about rights, because he's too busy meeting budget and parsing his P&L to the 10th of a percent... cuz that's what's important.
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Liberty Safe was sold to Monomoy Capital Partners in 2021, a liberal East Coast investment firm. I pulled the FEC reports on the company and found approximately $400,000 over the last 10 cycles of max donations to Democrats like:

Raphael Warnock in GA
John Fetterman in PA
Mandela Barnes in WI
Mark Kelly in AZ

Liberty Safe’s current CEO, Justin Hillenbrand, was a founding partner of Monomoy and donated $4,600 to Obama for America.

And we're supposed to be surprised they betrayed their customers to the FBI as quickly as humanly possible?

Boycott Liberty Safe.
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MY message IS....just why don't any twatter links show up, as the OP post is totally blank, and so I hit the quote button and here it is....what is the matter with the programming??? happens all the time....
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My code was changed the day I installed the safe, I'm the only one who knows what that code is. The safe comes with instructions on how to change the code, who wouldn't change it to something they can remember?

Makes no sense, are they implying the company has a bypass code? No idea, and not that it matters since I protect the safe. Only way anyone gets in it is if I am dead.
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I won't be buying their products
I won't buy any product where the manufacturer has a back door to bypass the security of their product. Kinda defeats the whole point of having a safe.
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I only keep giant black cock dildos in my safe.

Jokes on them.
I leave mine out. The dog like to carry them on his walks.
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Nice bit of info gathered by Charlie Kirk.

I say it's time to "bud light" them.


Investment Firms should not be handing out Investors money regardless to political affiliation.
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Investment Firms should not be handing out Investors money regardless to political affiliation.
Why is that?

Do you invest with Private Equity? Do you know what their job is?
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Just personal preference.

In my older age, I am paying more attention to shit I really didn't care much about in my younger days. Red flags seem to stick out more or at least get my attention better.

Last night, wife and I went to a Investment Dinner at Ruth's Chris. Pretty good, ratings and BBB are all good but in addition to it, he spent a lot of time telling stupid stories and his college football days in North Texas and making comparisons from buddies to present day investment life issues. We've had the same planner here 25 years and sticking with hit.

I'm personal friends with the "current "President of Liberty University. We've known each other since the 70's up in Alaska. Great preacher but very political and many times I don't know wtf he's thinking and just ignore it.

Backing a candidate is fine and hoping the congregation will follow suit on election day but political donations of money, I don't agree with.
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Just personal preference.

In my older age, I am paying more attention to shit I really didn't care much about in my younger days. Red flags seem to stick out more or at least get my attention better.

Last night, wife and I went to a Investment Dinner at Ruth's Chris. Pretty good, ratings and BBB are all good but in addition to it, he spent a lot of time telling stupid stories and his college football days in North Texas and making comparisons from buddies to present day investment life issues. We've had the same planner here 25 years and sticking with hit.

I'm personal friends with the "current "President of Liberty University. We've known each other since the 70's up in Alaska. Great preacher but very political and many times I don't know wtf he's thinking and just ignore it.

Backing a candidate is fine and hoping the congregation will follow suit on election day but political donations of money, I don't agree with.
Your investment planner and the type of investment company referenced are miles apart in what they do and who they are. Not even remotely similar groups.
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I’m confused. If they have a warrant, wouldn’t Liberty Safe’s need to comply?
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I’m confused. If they have a warrant, wouldn’t Liberty Safe’s need to comply?
They would have been wise to challenge the warrant and let a court decide.

But....put me in the WTF??? category that the manufacturer has back door access to the safe in the first place.
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