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Old 11-21-2012, 7:29pm   #21
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I've read enough of his posts to know he isn't hanging out with "billion dollar" CEO's.
This is where people with your beliefs are exposed. You say you are for "social justice" and equality yet you believe there are separate classes. In other words, that a simple guy like me would have no business talking to CEOs at that level.

Here is what your kind don't get: those guys are just people too. In fact, the ones I am referring to are among the kindest and most generous people I know.

They believe in what I'm doing in education and respect me enough to support what I do. In fact, they are on my board.

And here is a news flash. Before I was in the education industry I worked with a long list of some of the biggest companies in the world. (means nothing to me, but it shows that your contention that I have to lie about such mundane things is wrong)

I don't need to lie. I do what I do. I know who I know.

In fact, I'm so easy to find online it would take minutes to figure out who I "hang with".

I am always entertained by people who view others through their own perceived limitations. Instead of thinking "wow, you are lucky" they think "they must be lying. I could never achieve that"

When you call me a liar, I have to consider the source.
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I've read enough of his posts to know he isn't hanging out with "billion dollar" CEO's.

I don't know you, but I do believe by reading what you post you are an idiot.
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I don't know you, but I do believe by reading what you post you are an idiot.
He's not an idiot; but he does pride himself as a "button-pusher". Don't get emotional in responses, that's what feeds this sort of thing. And, it's not always easy to do, I'll admit.
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I've been there. Mr. Lunchpail should hit night school and improve his skill set if he doesn't like his situation.
Here's what your kind don't get; Not everyone wants to be a big shot rainmaker like you fancy yourself. Some of us are content being middle class slugs and have no interest in moving to the Caymans or rubbing elbows with CEO's of billion dollar corporations.

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And here is a news flash. Before I was in the education industry I worked with a long list of some of the biggest companies in the world. (means nothing to me
Here's another news flash. It obviously DOES mean something to you, hence your continued reminders.

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I don't need to lie. I do what I do. I know who I know.
So do we, you've seen to that repeatedly.

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I'm always entertained by braggarts and "I know ______" types.
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This is where people with your beliefs are exposed. You say you are for "social justice" and equality yet you believe there are separate classes. In other words, that a simple guy like me would have no business talking to CEOs at that level.

Here is what your kind don't get: those guys are just people too. In fact, the ones I am referring to are among the kindest and most generous people I know.

They believe in what I'm doing in education and respect me enough to support what I do. In fact, they are on my board.

And here is a news flash. Before I was in the education industry I worked with a long list of some of the biggest companies in the world. (means nothing to me, but it shows that your contention that I have to lie about such mundane things is wrong)

I don't need to lie. I do what I do. I know who I know.

In fact, I'm so easy to find online it would take minutes to figure out who I "hang with".

I am always entertained by people who view others through their own perceived limitations. Instead of thinking "wow, you are lucky" they think "they must be lying. I could never achieve that"

When you call me a liar, I have to consider the source.
I believe you suffer from delusions of grandeur.
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I've read enough of his posts to know he isn't hanging out with "billion dollar" CEO's.
How can you judge that by his posts? It would probably shock you to learn who all I know. I don't make claims or use them to influence my point, but don't assume that everyone here is incapable of knowing people at the top.

For example, I will drop one name, Reed Hastings CEO of Netflix. I do know him personally, we have had many one on one conversations and I know his philosophies and his view on the economy, but I won't use his words, that's for him to do when he wants, that's called respect. Does that shock you? As he stated, it's pretty easy to find me on the Internet as well and get a pretty good idea of who I hang with, past and present.

Don't be so judgemental.
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Name dropping can come off as rather douchey when you're putting forth your positions.
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Name dropping can come off as rather douchey when you're putting forth your positions.
Maybe to some, but if you look at it from a different perspective (which I believe the OP is coming from), it lends an bit of validity to the statement.

I know that if I have an opinion, it counts to a certain extent, but when my opinion is backed/shared by Navy CAPT's and Admirals that I work with, it carries a bit more weight.

Same principle, different setting.

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Name dropping can come off as rather douchey when you're putting forth your positions.
Agreed, to use some one's name and quote opinions given during personal conversations to make your own point is just that, but I just find it insulting that Phil seems to feel he has the right to be judge and jury with his magical ability to judge a person's position in life by their posts. Especially given his affinity to the "People's Party". He is a hypocrite on so many levels.
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Agreed, to use some one's name and quote opinions given during personal conversations to make your own point is just that, but I just find it insulting that Phil seems to feel he has the right to be judge and jury with his magical ability to judge a person's position in life by their posts. Especially given his affinity to the "People's Party". He is a hypocrite on so many levels.
I meant it to be crass. This isn't the first time he's done it, its not the first time I've called him out on it, and its not the first time he pretends to be above the discussion he started.
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I meant it to be crass. This isn't the first time he's done it, its not the first time I've called him out on it, and its not the first time he pretends to be above the discussion he started.
A pattern of operations that has served you quite well.

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A pattern of operations that has served you quite well.
...hmm...yep...
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Maybe to some, but if you look at it from a different perspective (which I believe the OP is coming from), it lends an bit of validity to the statement.

I know that if I have an opinion, it counts to a certain extent, but when my opinion is backed/shared by Navy CAPT's and Admirals that I work with, it carries a bit more weight.

Same principle, different setting.

This. I didn't mention any names either. My point has zero to do with who I know. The point is that these people have a very good position to see what is happening.

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I meant it to be crass. This isn't the first time he's done it, its not the first time I've called him out on it, and its not the first time he pretends to be above the discussion he started.
No idea what you are talking about. I post up what happens in my life - always honest and transparent. If you think that is grandiose or conceited, that is on you. You think a lot of things that have no bearing on reality.

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Here's what your kind don't get; Not everyone wants to be a big shot rainmaker like you fancy yourself. Some of us are content being middle class slugs and have no interest in moving to the Caymans or rubbing elbows with CEO's of billion dollar corporations.

Never said that. If people are content, they shouldn't bitch about their jobs, their lifestyle, their pay scale, etc.

If you actually knew me, you would know I have zero aspirations for that life. My focus is entirely on my family and America's future innovators. I choose the life I have. If I wanted to make huge money, I'd choose something else.



Here's another news flash. It obviously DOES mean something to you, hence your continued reminders.

Post up these continued reminders. What means something to me is when knowledgable people with proven track records tell me something. I'm sure that is a foreign concept to you. I seek the advice of those who know more than me and benefit from their wisdom. You should try it.


So do we, you've seen to that repeatedly.


I'm always entertained by braggarts and "I know ______" types.
I'm always entertained by those who have class envy and believe in the communist mantra of "us vs. them"

I could say the same thing about you posting up your guitar playing. But I don't criticize you for that.

In Texas we say "it ain't bragging if it's true". we also say "when the other side resorts to name calling, they have lost the argument."
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In Texas we say "it ain't bragging if it's true". we also say "when the other side resorts to name calling, they have lost the argument."
We have a saying here too. "Put up or shut up".
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I'm always entertained by those who have class envy and believe in the communist mantra of "us vs. them"
Class envy? That's pretty funny since you dont know jack shit about me or how I live my life.

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I could say the same thing about you posting up your guitar playing. But I don't criticize you for that.
I'm wondering if you just did.
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For the record? I applaud you for what your doing with your son and your educational things. It reflects well on you.

And I'm also aware my opinion doesn't amount to spit.
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Class envy? That's pretty funny since you don't know jack shit about me or how I live my life.


I'm wondering if you just did.
Oh the irony.

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For the record? I applaud you for what your doing with your son and your educational things. It reflects well on you.

And I'm also aware my opinion doesn't amount to spit.
It means something to me.
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We have a saying here too. "Put up or shut up".
What the hell does that mean?
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OK Thraak. Peace. I got a little carried away. Apologies to ya.
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We have a saying here too. "Put up or shut up".
He told me who he was speaking of, I'm impressed. I certainly wouldn't drop those names and quote them publicly either in a thread here, especially with the way you twist words. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

He is wise not to expose more
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