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Old 04-16-2024, 11:05am   #41
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By "extreme prejudice" do you mean train station or gallows?
whatever it takes, the harder the justice the stronger the message
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This is why it should be done to finality. Remove any ability to counter-strike. Reduce them to vapor.
Not possible.
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whatever it takes, the harder the justice the stronger the message
The train station would be quicker and easier, but the gallows would send a stronger massage.
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Here is a woman, who will probably die, has spoken out. I have always said, its not the people, its the government that causes hate etc.
https://redstate.com/videos/2024/04/...viral-n2172812
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Not possible.
I don't recall Japan giving it a second try.
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I don't recall Japan giving it a second try.
But it took two demonstrations to get them to stop.
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But it took two demonstrations to get them to stop.
Maybe Iran will be quicker on the uptake.
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But it took two demonstrations to get them to stop.
Hit Iran with six then...
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People agonize over sending men in to battle to die when in fact the vast majority of deaths are avoidable if we are allowed to fight to win. We have the capability to stat and end a war by pushing the right buttons. We "choose" to put people in harm's way by pretending we aren't fighting, or not being allowed to fight.
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People agonize over sending men in to battle to die when in fact the vast majority of deaths are avoidable if we are allowed to fight to win. We have the capability to stat and end a war by pushing the right buttons. We "choose" to put people in harm's way by pretending we aren't fighting, or not being allowed to fight.
That's because the people in charge have a vested interest in dragging out the hostilities. They are heavily invested in companies that profit from the wars.
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That's because the people in charge have a vested interest in dragging out the hostilities. They are heavily invested in companies that profit from the wars.
Exactly. War is a product.
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I don't recall Japan giving it a second try.
It also not 1945. It's also not possible to kill every one, their family, distant family, friends, accomplices, etc.

Nukes are NEVER the correct answer.
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It also not 1945. It's also not possible to kill every one, their family, distant family, friends, accomplices, etc.

Nukes are NEVER the correct answer.
MOABS work though.
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MOABS work though.
When tactically feasible, sure. And they work very well.
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People agonize over sending men in to battle to die when in fact the vast majority of deaths are avoidable if we are allowed to fight to win. We have the capability to stat and end a war by pushing the right buttons. We "choose" to put people in harm's way by pretending we aren't fighting, or not being allowed to fight.
This is exactly right. And why we won WW2 hands down. And because we haven't 'fought to win' ever since, we have not won a single war.
You can't be PC and be in a war. The only way to engage is to wipe out the enemy or get unconditional surrender, like we did with the Japanese. No negotiations. No talks. SURRENDER OR DESTRUCTION. PERIOD.
We need to burn the cancer that is Iran from the face of the globe. Like most cancers, there will be some extra tissue removed to ensure all of it was removed.
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This is exactly right. And why we won WW2 hands down. And because we haven't 'fought to win' ever since, we have not won a single war.
You can't be PC and be in a war. The only way to engage is to wipe out the enemy or get unconditional surrender, like we did with the Japanese. No negotiations. No talks. SURRENDER OR DESTRUCTION. PERIOD.
We need to burn the cancer that is Iran from the face of the globe. Like most cancers, there will be some extra tissue removed to ensure all of it was removed.
Something like that will never happen as long as there's this perceived safety in "global organizations of good guys (TM)".

Once those organizations are more widely viewed as useless, and are disbanded, then will anyone have the gonads to dispose of rogue nations.
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This is exactly right. And why we won WW2 hands down. And because we haven't 'fought to win' ever since, we have not won a single war.
You can't be PC and be in a war. The only way to engage is to wipe out the enemy or get unconditional surrender, like we did with the Japanese. No negotiations. No talks. SURRENDER OR DESTRUCTION. PERIOD.
We need to burn the cancer that is Iran from the face of the globe. Like most cancers, there will be some extra tissue removed to ensure all of it was removed.
We said the same thing about Saddam Hussein, and we accomplished that in fairly short order without needing nukes at all. Hell, we didn't even really need big bombs (or bombers for that matter).
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Here's what we NEED to do.

Stop screwing around in the ME. Remove bases and other US installations that are merely sitting duck targets. Recall the 4 black Georgia soldiers killed in Syria. Seriously, WTF are we doing in Syria? Trump pulled our troops from that country, because, like Reagan and Lebanon, Trump figured we had no business there and pulled out.

~stop funding bullshit wars, including the Ukraine and Gaza. Cut the money off, the killing stops
~immediately stop sending foreign aid to everyone, other than immediate humanitarian help in the event of a natural disaster......that's good practice for our military in case they need to do that here in the event of a natural disaster
~secure border, up to including lethal force (start out with walls, concertina wire, etc., defend with tear gas, LRAD's, bean bag rounds, rubber bullets, and finally, if none of that is working, live rounds, just like you'd expect to be shot to death if you forced your way onto a US military base)
~drill baby drill
~unleash the full potential of American energy
~reinstate Muslim travel ban
~ROBUST deportation program
~prohibit ANY dual citizen from holding any public office in America, including dog catcher
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Here's what we NEED to do.

Stop screwing around in the ME. Remove bases and other US installations that are merely sitting duck targets. Recall the 4 black Georgia soldiers killed in Syria. Seriously, WTF are we doing in Syria? Trump pulled our troops from that country, because, like Reagan and Lebanon, Trump figured we had no business there and pulled out.

~stop funding bullshit wars, including the Ukraine and Gaza. Cut the money off, the killing stops
~immediately stop sending foreign aid to everyone, other than immediate humanitarian help in the event of a natural disaster......that's good practice for our military in case they need to do that here in the event of a natural disaster
~secure border, up to including lethal force (start out with walls, concertina wire, etc., defend with tear gas, LRAD's, bean bag rounds, rubber bullets, and finally, if none of that is working, live rounds, just like you'd expect to be shot to death if you forced your way onto a US military base)
~drill baby drill
~unleash the full potential of American energy
~reinstate Muslim travel ban
~ROBUST deportation program
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Vote for Trump!!!
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Here's what we NEED to do.

Stop screwing around in the ME. Remove bases and other US installations that are merely sitting duck targets. Recall the 4 black Georgia soldiers killed in Syria. Seriously, WTF are we doing in Syria? Trump pulled our troops from that country, because, like Reagan and Lebanon, Trump figured we had no business there and pulled out.

~stop funding bullshit wars, including the Ukraine and Gaza. Cut the money off, the killing stops
~immediately stop sending foreign aid to everyone, other than immediate humanitarian help in the event of a natural disaster......that's good practice for our military in case they need to do that here in the event of a natural disaster
~secure border, up to including lethal force (start out with walls, concertina wire, etc., defend with tear gas, LRAD's, bean bag rounds, rubber bullets, and finally, if none of that is working, live rounds, just like you'd expect to be shot to death if you forced your way onto a US military base)
~drill baby drill
~unleash the full potential of American energy
~reinstate Muslim travel ban
~ROBUST deportation program
~prohibit ANY dual citizen from holding any public office in America, including dog catcher
As much as I agree with this...no President (including Trump) can ever do that (to completion) without significantly weakening America.

Ever wonder how we can have supported boots on the ground (en masse) anywhere on the globe in less than 24 hours? It ain't because we have bases on the coasts. Power comes from more than just saber rattling. Our global posture allows us to be 6 moves ahead in the global power projection chess game. No other country is anywhere close to that.

I agree with pretty much every one of your bullet points though.
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