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Old 02-27-2019, 6:08pm   #1
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Default I shit you not - US TP use wiping out Canadian forests

guess we'll have to move on to bunnies when the trees run out. or small moose.

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The voracious use of toilet paper in the United States — with the average American using almost three rolls each week and major manufacturers spurning alternative fibres — is destroying Canada’s forests and causing widespread environmental damage, two international environmental groups say.

A report on tissue paper use gave failing grades to the leading toilet paper, tissue and paper towel brands for using only virgin fibre pulp, mostly from Canada’s old boreal forests.

“Forests are too vital to flush away,” says the report, called The Issue With Tissue, released Wednesday by Natural Resources Defense Council and Stand.earth, international nonprofit environmental organizations that cooperated on the study.

The report hammered the three biggest tissue producers in the U.S. — Procter & Gamble, Georgia-Pacific, and Kimberly-Clark — over their big, recognizable brands such as Charmin, Cottonelle, Brawny, Bounty, Kleenex, Angel Soft, Quilted Northern and Viva.

“None of their flagship at-home brands contain recycled materials or alternative fibres, and each company misses other key commitments necessary to ensure their products do not come at the expense of the boreal forest,” according to the report.

The report also unrolls the incredible toilet paper use by consumers in the U.S., noting that just 150 years ago Americans used corncobs to clean up, but have since been drummed by marketing campaigns to demand the softest tissue they can get, which comes from Canada’s softwood.

The U.S. consumes more toilet paper than any other country, almost three rolls per person each week. The U.S. is followed by Germany and Britain in annual toilet paper consumption. They far out-pace the other nations. Canada isn’t in the top 10.

It’s created an industry absorbing $31 billion in revenue every year in the U.S, the report says.

Compounding the environmental concerns is that all of those trees turned into pulp and made into tissue are then flushed down the toilet without recycling diversion.

The report calls that a “tree-to-toilet pipeline.”

Rampant use of virgin pulp tissue is threatening the way of life for Canada’s Indigenous Peoples, causing large environmental damage, endangering wildlife and contributing to climate change, the report says: “Tissue products made from virgin fibre pulp, which comes from trees, are a clear threat to our climate.”

“When the boreal and other forests are degraded, their capacity to absorb man-made greenhouse gas emissions declines. In addition, the carbon that had been safely stored in the forests’ soil and vegetation is released into the atmosphere, dramatically undermining international efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.”


The U.S. consumes more toilet paper than any other country, almost three rolls per person each week. Getty Images
The organizations are calling for alternative content, including recycled wood pulp, wheat straw and bamboo.

Big Tissue defended its practices.

Damon Jones, vice president, global communications at Procter & Gamble said consumers demand soft, absorbent tissue.

“We know that virgin fibre in tissue products is significantly preferred by consumers, and ‘does the job’ much more efficiently than recycled or non-wood products,” Jones said. He said P&G’s products, including its packaging and inner cores, use sustainable sourced or recycled content and its wood fibre comes from responsibly managed forests.

Similarly, Georgia-Pacific said softness and absorbency are what consumers want and that is best accommodated with virgin pulp. The company “takes steps to ensure that we are responsibly sourcing wood and wood fibre for our pulp, paper and wood products operations,” a spokeswoman said.

Kimberly-Clark said it plans to cut virgin pulp content in half by 2025. At the same time, spokesman Terry Balluck said, the company will increase “use of low-impact alternative and recycled fibres where credible analysis indicates that they are environmentally and socially preferable to other virgin fibre sources and do not lead to loss of necessary food crops or high conservation value ecosystems.”
not only are we accused of crapping all over our friendly neighbors, now we're using up all their lumber to wipe our south ends.
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Industrial hemp is the key to that.
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Ever since I installed my Lux Bidet's, I use very little toilet paper. Literally one small pat to dry off, and that's it.

I'd be willing to bet that my asshole, along with Dixie's (another Bidet user) are cleaner than all y'all's who just use toilet paper alone. FACT.
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Ever since I installed my Lux Bidet's, I use very little toilet paper. Literally one small pat to dry off, and that's it.

I'd be willing to bet that my asshole, along with Dixie's (another Bidet user) are cleaner than all y'all's who just use toilet paper alone. FACT.
I use baby wipes, and then small amount of TP.
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Is anyone here using this much TP? One roll lasts probably more than a week, unless maybe I've eaten at Taco Bell that week.
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sometimes you have a neat poop, other times you have a messy poop.
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with the average American using almost three rolls each week
I call this BS! A roll should last about 1-2 weeks.
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I use baby wipes, and then small amount of TP.
Good job clogging up the damn sewer!!!
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Good job clogging up the damn sewer!!!
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I can believe that some people use 2-3 rolls per week. We are wasting the stuff! Look...tear off 4 panels of paper, fold it twice, you have 4 layers of paper. That's enough to wipe anyone. You can also use only 3 panels, folded twice. I use a roll every 2-3 weeks.
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one square

tear the corner off

wipe

then use the corner to clean your fingernail

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Reading "between the lines" of the article, I would venture a guess that these "independent environmental groups" are trying to force the paper companies to do things their way.

The paper companies already practice renewable growth ( although I'm sure there is room for improvement) but forcing their hand into changing earlier than they planned will increase consumer costs.
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Reading "between the lines" of the article, I would venture a guess that these "independent environmental groups" are trying to force the paper companies to do things their way.

The paper companies already practice renewable growth ( although I'm sure there is room for improvement) but forcing their hand into changing earlier than they planned will increase consumer costs.
It's a bullshit article. No one is cutting old growth timber to make toilet paper. TP is made from pulp wood which is [gasp] farmed. It's a resource. It's cut, then replanted.

More hysterics from the left. If there was a problem, the price of TP would be a lot higher.
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I knew it had happened, but hadn't seen pictures. Well, that was an epic clogged sewer. Fairly certain I'm glad I don't work for public works.
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I knew it had happened, but hadn't seen pictures. Well, that was an epic clogged sewer. Fairly certain I'm glad I don't work for public works.
Well, surely I have mentioned that I live on a hillside, for a damn reason, so maybe 500' down hill from me is the swamp/flood zone.....and very close to the intersection is a pump station, and they always have crews there when the joint floods....like during IRMA.....and that is because we know witch way the water/etc flows.....
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I do my best to pour all the grease off into a can, let it cool, then into the garbage......she cooks, I wash, we stay alive......
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Ever since I installed my Lux Bidet's, I use very little toilet paper. Literally one small pat to dry off, and that's it.

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Didn't happen unless you have photos.
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Lux Bidet $36.00, toilet paper $0.50 cent a roll, water $2.00 a thousand gallons. Economics alone make the bidet a better choice. The bidet will pay for itself. Cut my toilet paper usage by at least 90%.
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Reading "between the lines" of the article, I would venture a guess that these "independent environmental groups" are trying to force the paper companies to do things their way.



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