Ben & Jerry's

[Nox]

You can still drink Black Rifle Coffee without fear...

[Rob]

Originally Posted by tjfontaine

My fav ice cream is Tilamook. My dad was an ice cream salesman - I know good high butterfat ice cream. B&J is not bad better than most mass market stuff. But over priced for what it is.

Tilamook is our go to ... and we load up when Publix has it on sale

[Little Red L98.]

Originally Posted by VITE1

I visited their factory back in the early 90's. I've never bought their crap since then.

I knew a guy who worked at a Del Monte canning plant. For one day. Never ate anything canned again.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by 69camfrk

I haven't bought any of their crappy political overtone ice shit in years.

it's assinine for a business to to include politics into/onto their products. Not once has B&J cared to ask me about my politics; but for some wacky reason they think I need to know theirs.

idiots.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

[img]it's assinine for a business to to include politics into/onto their products. Not once has B&J cared to ask me about my politics; but for some wacky reason they think I need to know theirs.

This is very true, but in fairness, liberal businesses aren't the only ones who do it. Chick-fil-a has always been very vocal about their stance on religion, homosexuality and so forth. I eat there too.

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

This is very true, but in fairness, liberal businesses aren't the only ones who do it. Chick-fil-a has always been very vocal about their stance on religion, homosexuality and so forth. I eat there too.

The Corporation has not been vocal about those issues . The Owners have.

B/J as a BUSINESS push their agenda. CFA as a business pushes chicken.

There is a difference.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by VITE1

The Corporation has not been vocal about those issues . The Owners have.

B/J as a BUSINESS push their agenda. CFA as a business pushes chicken.

There is a difference.

Well that's really splitting hairs. The owners are the face of the corporation and if an owner/owners come out against something in society, people will interpret that as a stance that the company is taking. Nearly every business puts their hours on small print on the door. CFA puts "CLOSED SUNDAY" in big letters on their marquee. You don't think they are trying to push an agenda? Come on. When the "owners" made a public stance against homosexuality, people didn't protest at their homes. They went to the stores and gave them grief. CFA caved in and stopped donating to Christian charities. It was because the company was facing a backlash, not Dan Cathy personally.

[JetMechZ16]

If your business is not politics or religion don't put politics or religion into your business. You will immediately alienate 50% of your potential clientele.

[Vandelay Industries]

Leftists politicize everything.

EVERYTHING.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by JetMechZ16

If your business is not politics or religion don't put politics or religion into your business.

Nike is another one.

[VITE1]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Well that's really splitting hairs. The owners are the face of the corporation and if an owner/owners come out against something in society, people will interpret that as a stance that the company is taking. Nearly every business puts their hours on small print on the door. CFA puts "CLOSED SUNDAY" in big letters on their marquee. You don't think they are trying to push an agenda? Come on. When the "owners" made a public stance against homosexuality, people didn't protest at their homes. They went to the stores and gave them grief. CFA caved in and stopped donating to Christian charities. It was because the company was facing a backlash, not Dan Cathy personally.

Let's look at James Garner . He was a life long liberal. He worked for many liberal Democrats in his life. None heard him comment while on the job of being an actor about his politics. Yet he was out in protests , gatherings and political events his whole live. That's an example of a man following their convictions but keeping his business separate from his personal life. Same is true for Andy Griffith




And when you look at the actions of the people IN the organizations they are inclusive, diverse and follow the law to the letter.The MSM and the far left made the owners of CFA beliefs an issue. They did not rub peoples faces in in and name meals after biblical figures who felt gays were evil.

CFA is closed for Sunday due to the owners religious beliefs. They have come under fire for their support of the Salvation Army, which is considered a far right political organization by the left . CFA was not making the donations. The owners were.



Now Levis openly pushes from the corporate HQ " Common sense gun control" and done so for decades. . BJ has , from their corporate HQ, pushed the progressive liberal agenda and has done so for decades.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by VITE1

Now Levis openly pushes from the corporate HQ " Common sense gun control" and done so for decades. . BJ has , from their corporate HQ, pushed the progressive liberal agenda and has done so for decades.

James Garner and Andy Griffith were individuals, not multi-billion dollar corporations that were selling goods and services to millions around the world and employing tens of thousands of people. They didn’t affect the lives of that many people in a direct way. That’s hardly apples to apples.

Let’s say that tomorrow, an interview with Jeff Bezos comes out and he says he doesn’t like black people. The fact that it was a statement made by Bezos personally is irrelevant...Bezos IS the face of Amazon and it will be interpreted by the public as Amazon’s position. And Amazon would implode. Same would be true with Elon Musk, Howard Schultz, Marillyn Hewson of Lockheed, etc. In fact, I’d argue that if Bill Gates, who is no longer involved with Apple, made a polarizing public statement, it would be at the very least a public relations disaster for Apple. Why? Because Gates is and always will be the face of Apple whether he is connected to them or not.

If the owners of CFA’s religious beliefs say that they should be closed on Sunday, then close on Sunday. Many businesses do it. But making it a cornerstone of their corporate culture smacks of trying to push a message based on religious beliefs. Many folks dislike it. I consider myself conservative and I don’t like it. And it was most certainly CFA and not the owner making donations to The Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. The article below from CNBC has a CFA spokesperson saying that the company made a multi-year commitment to those organizations.

I’m not supporting Ben and Jerry’s anymore than I’m supporting CFA or anyone else. But B&J would not be able to push a hand in poker if they didn’t have their ice cream business. My point is that companies supporting a political agenda is not strictly a left-wing phenomenon, and you cannot rationalize the political behavior of most if not all major corporations by trying to isolate it as the behavior of the CEO. The two are not mutually exclusive and regardless of how the public finds out, they will perceive the CEO as the face of the company and punish the company for mistakes made by the CEO.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/chic...-protests.html

[SnikPlosskin]

Originally Posted by Nox

You can still drink Black Rifle Coffee without fear...

Their slogan should be “scary good”

[SnikPlosskin]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

James Garner and Andy Griffith were individuals, not multi-billion dollar corporations that were selling goods and services to millions around the world and employing tens of thousands of people. They didn’t affect the lives of that many people in a direct way. That’s hardly apples to apples.

Let’s say that tomorrow, an interview with Jeff Bezos comes out and he says he doesn’t like black people. The fact that it was a statement made by Bezos personally is irrelevant...Bezos IS the face of Amazon and it will be interpreted by the public as Amazon’s position. And Amazon would implode. Same would be true with Elon Musk, Howard Schultz, Marillyn Hewson of Lockheed, etc. In fact, I’d argue that if Bill Gates, who is no longer involved with Apple, made a polarizing public statement, it would be at the very least a public relations disaster for Apple. Why? Because Gates is and always will be the face of Apple whether he is connected to them or not.

If the owners of CFA’s religious beliefs say that they should be closed on Sunday, then close on Sunday. Many businesses do it. But making it a cornerstone of their corporate culture smacks of trying to push a message based on religious beliefs. Many folks dislike it. I consider myself conservative and I don’t like it. And it was most certainly CFA and not the owner making donations to The Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. The article below from CNBC has a CFA spokesperson saying that the company made a multi-year commitment to those organizations.

I’m not supporting Ben and Jerry’s anymore than I’m supporting CFA or anyone else. But B&J would not be able to push a hand in poker if they didn’t have their ice cream business. My point is that companies supporting a political agenda is not strictly a left-wing phenomenon, and you cannot rationalize the political behavior of most if not all major corporations by trying to isolate it as the behavior of the CEO. The two are not mutually exclusive and regardless of how the public finds out, they will perceive the CEO as the face of the company and punish the company for mistakes made by the CEO.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/chic...-protests.html

Wait, Bill Gates is the face of Apple? No wonder their shit has gotten terrible the last few years.

[Anjdog2003]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

This is very true, but in fairness, liberal businesses aren't the only ones who do it. Chick-fil-a has always been very vocal about their stance on religion, homosexuality and so forth. I eat there too.

Do they have a pic of Jesus on their sandwiches? How about beating up a homosexual on their drinking cups.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by SnikPlosskin

Wait, Bill Gates is the face of Apple? No wonder their shit has gotten terrible the last few years.

My point exactly

Originally Posted by Anjdog2003

Do they have a pic of Jesus on their sandwiches? How about beating up a homosexual on their drinking cups.

Well...maybe not THAT vocal

[snide]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

In fact, I’d argue that if Bill Gates, who is no longer involved with Apple, made a polarizing public statement, it would be at the very least a public relations disaster for Apple. Why? Because Gates is and always will be the face of Apple whether he is connected to them or not.

Clearly you've never worked in IT. The late Steve Jobs will always be the face of Apple. Gates was, and will always be, the face of Microsloth.

Originally Posted by SnikPlosskin

Wait, Bill Gates is the face of Apple? No wonder their shit has gotten terrible the last few years.

[IrishSpuds]

I hope they go bankrupt.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by snide

Clearly you've never worked in IT. The late Steve Jobs will always be the face of Apple. Gates was, and will always be, the face of Microsloth.

Shit...sorry...totally confused that one. Meant Steve Jobs. The logic still holds true, it's just my brain is wired backwards sometimes!

[snide]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Shit...sorry...totally confused that one. Meant Steve Jobs. The logic still holds true, it's just my brain is wired backwards sometimes!

All good, Mike.