Meanwhile, in South Africa: Collapse. Is this OUR future, too?

[ZipZap]

Last year, a family from SA moved into the neighborhood. Very successful businessman who does most work over the internet/phone. Parents, two teenage boys and the husband's brother all moved to the US.

Having talked with them several times about their homeland, this comes as no surprise to me. They talk horribly about the SA government and have said there's no way in hell they would ever go back. Nepotism and blind tribe favoring decisions are the norm.

I can see that this family is one of many who are taking their money and leaving the country, as they know that it's only a matter of time until it's their land, and their money, that the SA government decides should be shared with others.

[Hardluck]

Originally Posted by Rob

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by LATB

Damn. That dude just returned from vacation.

Sometime you require a longer vacation to recover from a shorter vacation,,,

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Sometime you require a longer vacation to recover from a shorter vacation,,,

He got 3 months for this one. I don't like racist bullshit

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Tikiman

If the democrats are allowed to continue to steal elections and then rape and pillage the Treasury, we should be there in about 20 years. Maybe less.

The last act of any dying regime is to loot the government.

Ukraine $$$$$ kickbacks?

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Rob

That website reads like an ill informed prepper waiting (wanting) for STHTF so he can tell everyone "I told you so"

Which one? I linked two. Here's another one, a very mainstream Australian news outlet. The situation does indeed appear dire. I didn't even have to be hyperbolic or use any of my customary poetic license on this world events thread.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...dfaf0ac3db6582

‘Stockpile food and water’: South Africa faces ‘civil war’ conditions if power grid collapses

A country of 60 million is on the verge of “collapse” amid rolling blackouts and warnings of “civil war” scale unrest.
Frank Chung

February 28, 2023 - 8:00AM


South Africa is on the verge of “collapse” amid rolling blackouts and warnings a total power grid failure could lead to mass rioting on the scale of a “civil war”.

Western embassies including the United States and Australia have advised their citizens in the country to stock up on “several days worth” of food and water and be on high alert during extended blackouts sweeping the country.

South Africa’s President Cyril Ramaphosa declared a national “state of disaster" on February 9 in response to the record electricity shortage, which has seen state-owned power company Eskom institute rolling blackouts – dubbed “load shedding” – lasting up to 12 hours in some cases.

What “load shedding� in South Africa 🇿🇦 looks and sounds like: Urban Square, Century City mall, Cape Town, South Africa, 4:07 a.m., February 15, 2023. The electricity from Eskom, the state-owned power company, cuts out, and then the private generators kick in. Credit: @joelpollakpic.twitter.com/XhMYvWnMlb
— Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) February 15, 2023

“Rolling blackouts (load shedding) are occurring throughout South Africa which are affecting private residences, businesses, municipal lighting, traffic lights and hotels,” Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said earlier this month.

“Blackouts can also affect water availability, internet connectivity, mobile phone network coverage, fuel availability, residential security features, and food supply.”

DFAT warned power outages can increase crime. “For example, traffic jams due to power outages provide opportunities for smash-and-grab crime,” it said.

“Residences can be targeted when lights are out and security systems are not functioning. Ongoing conditions have led to increased protests and demonstrations, and in some cases, civil unrest, throughout the country.”


The US Embassy this month advised citizens to “maintain 72-hours’ worth of supplies at home by stockpiling non-perishable food, three litres of drinking water per person per day, and medicines and first aid supplies”.

It comes after the US government last month warned its stakeholders in South Africa to prepare for a total collapse of the power grid, tech publication MyBroadband reported.

The US Overseas Security Advisory Council convened a meeting with representatives from several large US-based corporations with operations in South Africa, as well as a number of local companies, to discuss business security concerns amid the energy crisis.

At the meeting, a recording of which was viewed by MyBroadband, a US government official said while a total power grid failure was unlikely, it was “something we need to start thinking about”.

They said one of the biggest dangers was the amount of time required to bring the system back online from a total collapse.

“Eskom estimates, in the best case scenario, it would take six to 14 days to restart the power grid,” the official said. “There are a few feeder lines from other countries, but not enough to help with a black start situation.”

The official warned of mass looting and civil unrest if the grid collapsed, quoting an unnamed individual as saying, “What’s left after a blackout would be what was left after a civil war.”

Edit: And we don't have to speculate what people can do during blackouts, we have experiences in our own country to look at:

"It went from being light to being looting," from Blackout - YouTube

The NYC Blackout of 1977 Was An Invitation To Looting And Rioting | Street Justice: The Bronx - YouTube

[Bill]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

Last year, a family from SA moved into the neighborhood. Very successful businessman who does most work over the internet/phone. Parents, two teenage boys and the husband's brother all moved to the US.

Having talked with them several times about their homeland, this comes as no surprise to me. They talk horribly about the SA government and have said there's no way in hell they would ever go back. Nepotism and blind tribe favoring decisions are the norm.

I can see that this family is one of many who are taking their money and leaving the country, as they know that it's only a matter of time until it's their land, and their money, that the SA government decides should be shared with others.

I met a guy at a CF meetup years ago, who was not only from there, but in the army as well. He and his whole family fled, and the shit he told us even back then was frightening. Here's a guy who was a soldier, and HE didn't feel safe in his own country.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Tikiman

If the democrats are allowed to continue to steal elections and then rape and pillage the Treasury, we should be there in about 20 years. Maybe less.

Less.

I will bet by 2030, we are going to be nearly ruined. I will bet we will have sold Most Federal land to China or China owned entities in an attempt to keep them from eating us alive. Our businesses will follow suit. Very little will be US owned.

[sublime1996525]

Originally Posted by Rob

He got 3 months for this one. I don't like racist bullshit

[99 pewtercoupe]

Originally Posted by Rob

He got 3 months for this one. I don't like racist bullshit

Good. I don’t think I ever saw a single post from him that was at all constructive or added to a discussion.

[Loco Vette]

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe

Good. I don’t think I ever saw a single post from him that was at all constructive or added to a discussion.

Same here. Always just being an ass.

[Tikiman]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

The last act of any dying regime is to loot the government.

Ukraine $$$$$ kickbacks?

Yep. We are watching the sacking of Rome in real time.

[MadInNc]

Originally Posted by Rob

He got 3 months for this one. I don't like racist bullshit

Good thing Scott Adam’s isn’t here

[Bill]

Originally Posted by MadInNc

Good thing Scott Adam’s isn’t here

Ich bin ein Dilbert!

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

his only reason for being here, supported by his posts, is that all of us are privileged, and we are the root cause of all problems.
he recently posted we are all racists, his rationale was that we all claim not to be.

Hopefully the sledgehammer is being prepped.

Link?

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Ill Duce

oops

There it is. Badge for you.

[Anjdog2003]

Originally Posted by Rob

He got 3 months for this one. I don't like racist bullshit

He'll come back with a new name and post just the same.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Less.

I will bet by 2030, we are going to be nearly ruined. I will bet we will have sold Most Federal land to China or China owned entities in an attempt to keep them from eating us alive. Our businesses will follow suit. Very little will be US owned.

Akshually, China is pretty screwed right now as well. They are losing their cheap labor class as people have decided it's better to not have kids after decades of being told they could only have 1, which is really the main thing that drives their economy. They are a single generation away from being really screwed. Which, should scare the shit out of everyone in Africa and SE Asia.

[Frankie the Fink]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

Last year, a family from SA moved into the neighborhood. Very successful businessman who does most work over the internet/phone. Parents, two teenage boys and the husband's brother all moved to the US.

Having talked with them several times about their homeland, this comes as no surprise to me. They talk horribly about the SA government and have said there's no way in hell they would ever go back. Nepotism and blind tribe favoring decisions are the norm.

I can see that this family is one of many who are taking their money and leaving the country, as they know that it's only a matter of time until it's their land, and their money, that the SA government decides should be shared with others.

The split window in my avatar was sold 18 months ago to a Dutch collector in Botswana - I hope he's OK - and the car.

[Tikiman]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

Akshually, China is pretty screwed right now as well. They are losing their cheap labor class as people have decided it's better to not have kids after decades of being told they could only have 1, which is really the main thing that drives their economy. They are a single generation away from being really screwed. Which, should scare the shit out of everyone in Africa and SE Asia.

I've heard reliable sources say that China is ten years out from implosion. I think they will go out fighting before they lie down and just die.