The Obama Tax Compromise

[DropTheTop]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I'd bet Buffet's Million Dollars that no one on this forum could challenge your above post ...

They will dance all arond it or simply ignor it ...

No dancing, no ignoring. Just more logic.

Can I have my Million now?

[ChasC5]

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief."
--John McCain, May 2001

[DropTheTop]

^ More garbage Chas. Do you have any of your own thoughts? Go do the math and see how much higher the guy's taxable percentage rate goes up if he goes from 35% to 39%. Then factor in the 15% of capital gains.

It's negligible. People need to stop sponging and take responsibility for themselves, and stop coveting others.

Here's a quote for you, "Don't hate the player, hate the game".

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by DropTheTop

^ More garbage Chas. Do you have any of your own thoughts? Go do the math and see how much higher the guy's taxable percentage rate goes up if he goes from 35% to 39%. Then factor in the 15% of capital gains.

It's negligible. People need to stop sponging and take responsibility for themselves, and stop coveting others.

Here's a quote for you, "Don't hate the player, hate the game".

He who rejects change is the architect of decay.
The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery ... and Republicans.
~Harold Wilson

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief."
--John McCain, May 2001

"I cannot in good conscience support DADT because I supported so many of the benefits that went to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who now no longer need tax relief because they're now to ****ed-over since the last time I made this statement ... ."
--John McCain, May 2010



You may cut & paste this post into the *why right-wingers don't even know why you call them visceral* thread also ... sad.

[ChasC5]

There is nothing more galling to angry people than the coolness of those on whom they wish to vent their spleen.
~Alexandre Dumas

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by DropTheTop

So (some) people should continue to sponge off the Gov and not work, and we should hike the taxes of the rich more? By your logic, the effect would be minimal since the percentage of total income would barely increase. Sounds like you'd like to have the long term capital gain tax percent increased, as that would have a larger effect.

This argument holds no water. Welfare checks are sent by the state, not the federal government.

Again, why should the rich pay even more for the support of people not working for 2+ years? There are jobs out there, or all the "undocumented workers" as well as legit immigrants would be packing up and going home. Fact is we have a lot of lazy, proud Americans not willing to settle for less, and live to their means. Not the rich population's place, nor the Governments . . . to coddle them.

I'm not suggesting that the taxes be increased on the wealthy to pay unemployment benefits. I'm saying they need to be raised because we are 13 trillion dollars in debt and that is going to crush the economy.

Comparing a taxable percentage of billions of dollars to the taxable percentage of 60K is ridiculous. I'm sure the guy paying out 9 Billion of his "lower percentage" is feeling taxed enough already!

No one has ever paid nine billion in taxes. The vast majority of income from the nations highest earners comes from capital gains. They have successfully paid off law makers to tax this income at no more than 15%. This is unfair and unheard of in any other first world country. Capital gains is income, it must be taxed as such.

I'd much rather see an additional 8 billion saved and 1 billion generated, by those 500,000 people small percentage) sitting around laughing it up, as I mentioned.

Well that logic has already been shot to hell. Bush's tax cuts have been in place for the better part of a decade. Supposedly this is resulting in jobs being generated by the wealthy. Where are the jobs? Voodoo economics has not nor has it ever worked as advertised. Its just bull**** the wealthy use as an excuse to the peons to justify raping the system.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

This argument holds no water. Welfare checks are sent by the state, not the federal government.

I'm not suggesting that the taxes be increased on the wealthy to pay unemployment benefits. I'm saying they need to be raised because we are 13 trillion dollars in debt and that is going to crush the economy.

No one has ever paid nine billion in taxes. The vast majority of income from the nations highest earners comes from capital gains. They have successfully paid off law makers to tax this income at no more than 15%. This is unfair and unheard of in any other first world country. Capital gains is income, it must be taxed as such.

Well that logic has already been shot to hell. Bush's tax cuts have been in place for the better part of a decade. Supposedly this is resulting in jobs being generated by the wealthy. Where are the jobs? Voodoo economics has not nor has it ever worked as advertised. Its just bull**** the wealthy use as an excuse to the peons to justify raping the system.

Joe you are way too Cool for this to be fully digested on the forum …


No matter how much Logic you present …

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Joe you are wat too Cool for this to be fully digested on the forum …


No matter how much Logic you present …

+1 ... he did a lot for CFPR&C and the corvette community to finally get jacked by the wackos so it's always good to see Mr. Coooool show up from time to time on forums and take a moment to profess ...

[Kneel 8250]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

They have successfully paid off law makers to tax this income at no more than15%. This is unfair and unheard of in any other first world country. Capital gains is income, it must be taxed as such.

Would you consider Australia to be a "First World Country"???????

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by Kneel 8250

Would you consider Australia to be a "First World Country"???????

Sure. Thank you for making my point. Capital gains in Australia are treated as income and taxed accordingly.

Introduction to capital gains tax

And just an FYI, anyone in Australia making more than $150K is taxed at 45%.

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

Sure. Thank you for making my point. Capital gains in Australia are treated as income and taxed accordingly.

Introduction to capital gains tax

And just an FYI, anyone in Australia making more than $150K is taxed at 45%.

Glad I do not live in Australia, I make my money, I should be able to spend it on what I want, not you, those that want handouts or the Federal and State Govts. Govt wastes my $$ on crap and this is both parties.

I am Taxed Enough Already as I want to spend my hard earned $$ on myself, my family and what I want my income to go to, not what any Govt wants

[Kneel 8250]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

Sure. Thank you for making my point. Capital gains in Australia are treated as income and taxed accordingly.

Introduction to capital gains tax

And just an FYI, anyone in Australia making more than $150K is taxed at 45%.

True to a point. You have to realise the capital gain first.
It is also true that Australian tax payers pay far more tax than business.
It is also true that they have more socialist system than here in the USA.
None of that means the Australian system is right for America or the American system is right for Australia. Vive la difference eh.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Kneel 8250

True to a point. You have to realise the capital gain first.
It is also true that Australian tax payers pay far more tax than business.
It is also true that they have more socialist system than here in the USA.
None of that means the Australian system is right for America or the American system is right for Australia. Vive la difference eh.

Peter; you need to buy an Island for you, your family and both your friends and live happily ever after in your own reality. Meanwhile, back in America us Real American’s who actually believe in Country First and not just say it when referencing War, like to take care of each other. Yes, the Old the Young and the Good and Bad, and let a higher power decide the rest.

• If we’re willing to pay for an 18 year old for 30 plus years in jail, then a four year College Education isn’t such a bad investment.
• If Social Security is good enough for your parents, then why not me?
• If bailing out Wall Street is a good thing, then why not pay out Unemployment “Insurance” to those who have it coming?

Go ahead ... flame on ...

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Peter; you need to buy an Island for you, your family and both your friends and live happily ever after in your own reality. Meanwhile, back in America us Real American’s who actually believe in Country First and not just say it when referencing War, like to take care of each other. Yes, the Old the Young and the Good and Bad, and let a higher power decide the rest.

• If we’re willing to pay for an 18 year old for 30 plus years in jail, then a four year College Education isn’t such a bad investment.
• If Social Security is good enough for your parents, then why not me?
• If bailing out Wall Street is a good thing, then why not pay out Unemployment “Insurance” to those who have it coming?

Go ahead ... flame on ...

Those in jail commited crimes and maybe we need to take away more rights while in jail, no TVs less visits no cell phones and more chain gangs with tent cities. College Education is available to the poor already in grants that I pay for, those with $$ pay there way, we can not force someone to go to college even as we do already do grants for the low income.

Social Security is good enough for everyone, to bad both parties have stolen the money and spent it on handouts over the years, the I.O.Us are worthless. Yes you should have it, get both parties to stop the stealing of the $$.

Bailing out Wall Street was not a good idea and going past 6 months on unemployment is not a good idea, get a job that pays less, why America is stuck at almost 10% unemployment, no incentive to find a job until 99 weeks. Just because you had a job does not make it a right that I have to keep you on the roles for 99 weeks.

I am Taxed Enough Already

[Kneel 8250]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Peter; you need to buy an Island for you, your family and both your friends and live happily ever after in your own reality. Meanwhile, back in America us Real American’s who actually believe in Country First and not just say it when referencing War, like to take care of each other. Yes, the Old the Young and the Good and Bad, and let a higher power decide the rest.

• If we’re willing to pay for an 18 year old for 30 plus years in jail, then a four year College Education isn’t such a bad investment.
• If Social Security is good enough for your parents, then why not me?
• If bailing out Wall Street is a good thing, then why not pay out Unemployment “Insurance” to those who have it coming?

Go ahead ... flame on ...

Hang five there mate. My name is not Peter!!!!!!!!!
Dont quote me and reply to someone else's post thanks.
BTW. You seem to indicate that the World OWE's you something. Bad news is it doesnt. Get off your Ar$e and actually earn your money like the rest of us.

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Hopefully he won't bring that kind of **** over here ...

too late.

[Z06PDQ]

bring back the Eisenhower tax rates. the 1950's was a Golden Age [yeah,I'm an old fart] the rich were heavily taxed & the economy absolutely EXPLODED! it's an uncomfortable fact for the Reich Wingers that every time the wealthy have been taxed the economy took off.

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by Kneel 8250

Hang five there mate. My name is not Peter!!!!!!!!!
Dont quote me and reply to someone else's post thanks.
BTW. You seem to indicate that the World OWE's you something. Bad news is it doesnt. Get off your Ar$e and actually earn your money like the rest of us.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Kneel 8250

Hang five there mate. My name is not Peter!!!!!!!!!
Dont quote me and reply to someone else's post thanks.
BTW. You seem to indicate that the World OWE's you something. Bad news is it doesnt. Get off your Ar$e and actually earn your money like the rest of us.

My Bad, I was distracted ... I stand Corrected

Peter .. you have the Ball .