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03-22-2024, 9:37pm | #1961 | ||||||
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Those laws already exist. You have not posted evidence of customers being misled. What you perceive as misleading dealership advertising actually isn’t. You may not like the presentation but that doesn’t mean it’s misleading.
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So why doesn't a real world Tesla perform as tested? You're the one making these claims/defending the disparity between EPA #'s and real world numbers. Please explain. Tesla doesn't test cars BTW, EPA does. How could you possibly know that the rules were followed? Do all Tesla drivers drive like maniacs? Or is this just trust in government testing? (And don't make me find a yellow pad and hunt down your past statements about your distrust of government.) Full disclosure, I'm not anti-EV. We had a 240V-50A dedicated outlet built into the garage of our new-ish house. Currently, we think they are overrated/overpriced and not right for us. We're open to that changing. I do appreciate your diligence in responding to the gang tackle. I think your (and Aero's) heart is in a good place. You are just missing a few critical underlying principles of the American experiment and free-market principles. You are a hard-working/tax paying (I assume)/citizen-resident who seems to love your family and work in their best interest. I salute you for that. Rather than assert what you think is common sense, you might better-served by listening and asking questions about concepts that challenge your sensibilities. |
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Not news, and won’t operate for a decade or more if ever. I’m not worried about that anymore, I’m now consumed with worrying about misleading advertising that GSC3 says exists but for which he can’t provide one actual example of. |
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Just like 10 years ago, you were able to shop for a car nationwide using the most common car sites/apps and you could sort by price and you would indeed find the cars that are actually the cheapest ones first. Even though for example the Model Y qualifies for the full tax credit, Tesla does NOT advertise the reduced price first. The bold, large text price is the price without any conditional incentives. There is a smaller price below that indicates the price after tax credit. Not everyone qualifies for the tax credit, therefore, it shouldn't be taken out of the advertised price. Same thing goes with loyalty discounts. As a Cybertruck reservation holder, I can get $1000 off a Model 3/Y until 3/31. The price that I get to see does not show the $1000 taken out for everyone as it is a conditional one. That is non misleading advertising. |
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I understand that people with half a brain won't get misled but unfortunately, there are many people who don't even have half a brain. |
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If one is in the half brain category they probably should not be buying a new car. You are arguing that someone doesn't have the mental capacity to understand that there are some discounts that may not apply to them. And you want to share the road with these people? |
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You do realize that you could category almost all advertising for any product "misleading".
Do women really think that using the latest hair color or makeup will turn them into the gorgeous model that is showing them the product? Or the latest cleaning product? How about ads for men, you think a certain brand tire or beer will make you as cool and good looking as the dude pitching the product? When I'm watchin' my TV And a man comes on and tells me How white my shirts can be But, he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke The same cigarettes as me |
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You’ve been asked repeatedly for just one example of this. You still haven’t posted one. Why is that? |
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Why not do both, change the standard of EPA testing to where it reflects the mpg or range of real world driving and do the same with advertising a vehicles price where it actually reflects the actual price and not some fictional price that most can't get?? I'm all for it.
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