The Obama Tax Compromise

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Exotix

They don't need to be ... the entire concept of (R) Tax Cuts is still Nixon to Bush/Cheney *Deficits Don't Matter* ...

As long as the Oil Cartels and China continue to buy our debt and as long as we outsource to them ... we're in good shape ...

In this regard, what doesn't make sense is the Tea Party abolishing the govt. altogether ...

Looks to me like the Tea Party needs Mama Govenment to fund their spening and Wars.

Unless they think the Top 2% are going to give them some their Tax-Cut money.

Let's see what really happens.

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Extending help (Unemployment) for Americans is simply being American. If we don’t care about American’s, who will, and additionally, if the President found a way to pay for it, even better?

So, how will Tax-Cuts for the Rich be paid for?

extending unemployment benefits an additional 13 months for a grand total of nearly 3 years is "fiscally irresponsible".

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Looks to me like the Tea Party needs Mama Govenment to fund their spening and Wars.

Unless they think the Top 2% are going to give them some their Tax-Cut money.

Let's see what really happens.

Haven't heard a damn thing from the Tea Party since the last elections ... can one of you Tea Baggers help me out with what's going on with you ?

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

extending unemployment benefits an additional 13 months for a grand total of nearly 3 years is "fiscally irresponsible".

It's not ... we just got 2 deficit wammys ... it's posture as we go into 2012 where (R)'s McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and Pence have 2 years to *Take America Back* ... starting with job creation from this extended Tax Cut for the rich in terms of *voodoo economics* ...

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

extending unemployment benefits an additional 13 months for a grand total of nearly 3 years is "fiscally irresponsible".

Ok agreed ... then The (R) should come out and say "Cut them off"
The (D) have already said we should extend it.

Now, what about spending 3x that for the Top 2%

Take a stance and stand by it.

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by Exotix

It's not ... we just got 2 deficit wammys ... it's posture as we go into 2012 where (R)'s McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and Pence have 2 years to *Take America Back* ... starting with job creation from this extended Tax Cut for the rich in terms of *voodoo economics* ...

it is. 3 years of unemployment is as irresponsible as it gets. It enables people to STAY on unemployment for as long as possible without having to do anything for it.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

it is. 3 years of unemployment is as irresponsible as it gets. It enables people to STAY on unemployment for as long as possible without having to do anything for it.

and 10 Years of Tax-Cuts is exactly what ... Free?

Take a stance ... and stick with it.

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Ok agreed ... then The (R) should come out and say "Cut them off"
The (D) have already said we should extend it.

Now, what about spending 3x that for the Top 2%

Take a stance and stand by it.

agreed, the "(R)'s" as you call them should have said "NO MORE".

So let me get this straight.......the tax cuts we're talking about are going to be EXTENDED.......meaning that there will be no additional monies stolen...I mean collected.
So if they weren't being collected they shouldn't now be missed!
Perhaps if Obama and posse hadn't run up the deficit they wouldn't be having this push back.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

it is. 3 years of unemployment is as irresponsible as it gets. It enables people to STAY on unemployment for as long as possible without having to do anything for it.

This is merely (R)/(neo)-conservative/Tea Bag insHannity via Faux/Beckerhead and Rushbo that is the *new right* since Bush collapsed your Party ...

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

and 10 Years of Tax-Cuts is exactly what ... Free?

Take a stance ... and stick with it.

Chas, what is a tax?? it's TAKING money from the person who earns it.
A tax cut is NOT taking as much of their money as previously.

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by Exotix

This is merely (R)/(neo)-conservative/Tea Bag insHannity via Faux/Beckerhead and Rushbo that is the *new right* since Bush collapsed your Party ...

been drinking already this morning???

I don't watch Hannity, Beck or Rush..........but good try.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

agreed, the "(R)'s" as you call them should have said "NO MORE".

So let me get this straight.......the tax cuts we're talking about are going to be EXTENDED.......meaning that there will be no additional monies stolen...I mean collected.
So if they weren't being collected they shouldn't now be missed!
Perhaps if Obama and posse hadn't run up the deficit they wouldn't be having this push back.

Wrong; the rate of spending didn’t change, to cover the lack of revenue, in fact it increased … starting back in 2001, and again in 2003!

This isn’t long division, its simple addition and subtraction.

The previous Administration didn’t cover its own spend and thus we’re paying for it … Big Time.

The Physical Responsible hawks didn’t speak up in 2001 and 2003 and not once during the two Wars.

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Wrong; the rate of spending didn’t change, to cover the lack of revenue, in fact it increased … starting back in 2001, and again in 2003!

This isn’t long division, its simple addition and subtraction.

The previous Administration didn’t cover its own spend and thus we’re paying for it … Big Time.

The Physical Responsible hawks didn’t speak up in 2001 and 2003 and not once during the two Wars.

so you're going to stick with the story that Obama hasn't spent any more than any other president??? SERIOUSLY??????

omg, it's FISCAL not physical. Geez!!! (and don't try and say that's a typo).

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

so you're going to stick with the story that Obama hasn't spent any more than any other president??? SERIOUSLY??????

omg, it's FISCAL not physical. Geez!!! (and don't try and say that's a typo).

Let's see 3 trillion in new deficts in 2 years, Bush did not do that in 8 years, and the dems controlled congress for the last 2 years when he was in office and the largest deficts were then, seems both parties like to spend more than we tax, but the libs just put the reps in the back of the bus when it comes to uncontrolled spending, time for the country to only spend what we take in.

I am taxed enough already

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by TxAg

I see you still have nothing but juvenille insults to retort with.

One day you might be able to have an intelligent conversation on the facts.

But we all know you are a lair when you say you are willing to do that.

Believe me dude ... you'll still be been much better off running on a Fred Thompson ticket than the McKook invention ... Palin.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Please someone tell me how the PotUS can say the Republicans "held hostage" unemployment benefits when the current lame duck session of the House and Senate still have the Democrats with their super majorities? If the Democrats REALLY wanted to push their crap through (ie. Obamacare) the could do it and not need any Republican votes.

This statement goes to the Beckerhead insHannity I was just taking about ... proved not only that supermajority was explained to you I believe earlier in this thread ... but also proves you have nowhere to go but believe any same'o Beckerhead/insHannity you've long subscribed too ... probably because it's the only solace and comfort you have since Rumsfeld declared that WMD's were somewhere North, South, East and West of Baghdad ...

Sad.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell in Texas

so you're going to stick with the story that Obama hasn't spent any more than any other president??? SERIOUSLY??????

omg, it's FISCAL not physical. Geez!!! (and don't try and say that's a typo).

I personally don't give a Fck how it's spelled, because either way no one is doing it.

Out of all the POTUS, Obama had to spend the money. Or did you forget already?

Stop drinking the Koolaid.

[Peter Pan]

Originally Posted by Exotix

This statement goes to the Beckerhead insHannity I was just taking about ... proved not only that supermajority was explained to you I believe earlier in this thread ... but also proves you have nowhere to go but believe any same'o Beckerhead/insHannity you've long subscribed too ... probably because it's the only solace and comfort you have since Rumsfeld declared that WMD's were somewhere North, South, East and West of Baghdad ...

Sad.

You are wrong here, a super majority means you can dictate as Obama, the Senate and House has done the last two years, there had been no working with the other side at all until after this Nov election, the Reps got to ride in the back of the bus. Now with Obama not going to be able to dictate starting in Nov is already on the campagin trail, hostage taking is for the enemy not for the other political party, he is waging war against half of America with those statements. I resent my ideals being taken into context of war or a criminal as a hostage taker. After all I earn my $$ not you, not someone else or our elected officals. The current tax law takes more than its fair share, except for the poor who at the current levels pay zero federal taxes, seems the lower end does nothing to pay for itself and just takes from others freely and wants more.

I see you have served in the military and know without a doubt the Iraq did not have WMDs, I have no knowledge either way upon leaving the military, I do have knowledge what Iraq had while on active duty it was my area to report on, but you are the expert here, not congress or the federal govt that thought he had them. You seem to forgot as do most Americans the truck convoys going from Iraq to Syria before the start of the conflict, those are public, but then open sources are wrong to.

I am Taxed Enough Already

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Peter Pan

You are wrong here, a super majority means you can dictate as Obama, the Senate and House has done the last two years, there had been no working with the other side at all until after this Nov election, the Reps got to ride in the back of the bus. Now with Obama not going to be able to dictate starting in Nov is already on the campagin trail, hostage taking is for the enemy not for the other political party, he is waging war against half of America with those statements. I resent my ideals being taken into context of war or a criminal as a hostage taker. After all I earn my $$ not you, not someone else or our elected officals. The current tax law takes more than its fair share, except for the poor who at the current levels pay zero federal taxes, seems the lower end does nothing to pay for itself and just takes from others freely and wants more.

I see you have served in the military and know without a doubt the Iraq did not have WMDs, I have no knowledge either way upon leaving the military, I do have knowledge what Iraq had while on active duty it was my area to report on, but you are the expert here, not congress or the federal govt that thought he had them. You seem to forgot as do most Americans the truck convoys going from Iraq to Syria before the start of the conflict, those are public, but then open sources are wrong to.

I am Taxed Enough Already ...

Dude, when did you have the epiphany that you were taxed enough already ?

Lemme guess, when Haliburton had to disguise itself as KBR so it could continue it's cost-plus billing of the U.S. Treasury for RPG Net shrouds for the U.S. Embassy in Iraq that Bush built for you with your taxes ...

[Tinkerbell in Texas]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I personally don't give a Fck how it's spelled, because either way no one is doing it.

Out of all the POTUS, Obama had to spend the money. Or did you forget already?

Stop drinking the Koolaid.

Obama didn't HAVE to spend anything!!!! Perhaps YOU should stop drinking the koolaid!!