Goodbye GM

[69camfrk]

If this is the case, no one is going to miss them..

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...-electric-2035

[Datawiz]

Can't wait for the greenies to bitch about disposal of batteries in the landfill.

[Bill]

Just saw that on our local ABC news tonight.

[Steve_R]

All electric in 14 years? Never happen.

[Aerovette]

Oil industry killed off, coal killed off, China controls the power grid...and here is how it all ends...

[Datawiz]

Here's the real deal...electric battery powered cars is a stop gap. Hydrogen powered fuel cells (think Honda) is the real solution. Elon Musk will be broke in 10-15 years.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by datawiz

Here's the real deal...electric battery powered cars is a stop gap. Hydrogen powered fuel cells (think Honda) is the real solution. Elon Musk will be broke in 10-15 years.

I don't know if you are being facetious, but your statement is actually accurate from what little I have heard.

[DAB]

Originally Posted by datawiz

Here's the real deal...electric battery powered cars is a stop gap. Hydrogen powered fuel cells (think Honda) is the real solution. Elon Musk will be broke in 10-15 years.

Mrs. DAB's dad worked for NASA, and wrote a book for NASA about Hydrogen.

interesting read. one minor problem is the storage of it. it leaks thru steel.

not to mention the production of it isn't as simple as taking oil out of the ground and running it thru a fractional distillation tower to produce gas or diesel.

you can read it online for free:

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4404/contents.htm

or you can buy a copy online, Amazon carries it, others might too.

[Datawiz]

Originally Posted by DAB

Mrs. DAB's dad worked for NASA, and wrote a book for NASA about Hydrogen.

interesting read. one minor problem is the storage of it. it leaks thru steel.

not to mention the production of it isn't as simple as taking oil out of the ground and running it thru a fractional distillation tower to produce gas or diesel.

you can read it online for free:

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4404/contents.htm

or you can buy a copy online, Amazon carries it, others might too.

What about Aluminum or other metals?

[GentleBen]

Can we ask that they rename the corporation to General Electric Motors (GEM)?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by datawiz

What about Aluminum or other metals?

Some are better but hydrogen will diffuse through anything. I’ve surveyed the interior of hydrogen bombs for tritium (H3, which is larger than elemental hydrogen) for leakage.

[Nox]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

All electric in 14 years? Never happen.

I wasn’t surprised when 8 track and VHS tapes disappeared, but I was a bit surprised at how fast the CD and DVD format are going by the wayside. CD’s are all but dead. I’ll stop short of saying it will never happen the way technology changes these days. Fifteen years is a long time.

[DAB]

they later found that a ceramic (think your coffee mug) can contain hydrogen pretty well, but then you get into fittings, valves, other connections, not to mention the vibration and cracking potential of delicate glass lined containers.

that's why hydrogen powered rockets are continually being topped off until the launch, to make up for the boil off and the leakage.

as that book notes, it's pretty safe to handle, safer than gasoline, but the leakage and storage is a problem still. no taking along a 5 gallon Jerry can for spare fuel. by the time you need it, it'll be empty.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Nox

I wasn’t surprised when 8 track and VHS tapes disappeared, but I was a bit surprised at how fast the CD and DVD format are going by the wayside. CD’s are all but dead. I’ll stop short of saying it will never happen the way technology changes these days. Fifteen years is a long time.

Given the incredibly long lead time to get approvals and build any large new power plants, and the left’s hatred of them regardless of fuel type, there’s no way we’ll have the generating capacity to power all electric transportation in 15 years.

[Datawiz]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Given the incredibly long lead time to get approvals and build any large new power plants, and the left’s hatred of them regardless of fuel type, there’s no way we’ll have the generating capacity to power all electric transportation in 15 years.

Seems like everyone forgot the complete failure of the electrical grid in the North East about a decade ago. The grid can't handle that demand in its current form. Add another 10 million cars...what happens?

[Steve_R]

The explosions that destroyed the Fukushima nuke plants were hydrogen explosions. Just sayin’.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Given the incredibly long lead time to get approvals and build any large new power plants, and the left’s hatred of them regardless of fuel type, there’s no way we’ll have the generating capacity to power all electric transportation in 15 years.

That doesn't matter. Fire all the energy workers NOW, something happens, and at some vague future point in time, everyone is employed installing solar panels! Success!



You know what liberals used before they had candles for light?

A: Electricity

[Mike Mercury]

we're gonna need quite a few nuke power plants...

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

we're gonna need quite a few nuke power plants...

Yeah, we’re shutting them down early while other countries are building more.

[snide]

Originally Posted by Nox

I wasn’t surprised when 8 track and VHS tapes disappeared, but I was a bit surprised at how fast the CD and DVD format are going by the wayside. CD’s are all but dead. I’ll stop short of saying it will never happen the way technology changes these days. Fifteen years is a long time.

I haven't bought any CDs in a few years. The only CD player I have now is an iMac from 2011.