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Old 03-05-2024, 7:32pm   #41
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Doesn't your son have an e-car?
He's also married, a dad, a conservative, has built his own AK-74, works on his own cars, brews his own beer... all Trump cards against the gaye.
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Holy shit! 200 miles per gallon? That's incredible!

My Corvette gets 8-10 miles per gallon around town, and I've never gotten more than 15 mpg on the highway!

You're awesome dude!
I should have said “average”….


The best I’ve done on my 8 gal tank of gas netted 3300 miles.
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Who's hating on Tesla's. What I'm hating on is government and liberals telling me what I can and cannot buy in the future. BIG DIFFERENCE
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They will always have gas vehicles especially hot rods, classic, and exotics from probably 1972 and older. But electric is the way it's going to be. People will whine like they they did when everyone was buying Japanese cars and they said "BUY AMERICAN" People hate change especially in the South and Midwest. But you know Blacks can play in the SEC and Southwest Conference/Big 12 now and drink out of the same water fountain.
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They will always have gas vehicles especially hot rods, classic, and exotics from probably 1972 and older. But electric is the way it's going to be. People will whine like they they did when everyone was buying Japanese cars and they said "BUY AMERICAN" People hate change especially in the South and Midwest. But you know Blacks can play in the SEC and Southwest Conference/Big 12 now and drink out of the same water fountain.
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They will always have gas vehicles especially hot rods, classic, and exotics from probably 1972 and older. But electric is the way it's going to be. People will whine like they they did when everyone was buying Japanese cars and they said "BUY AMERICAN" People hate change especially in the South and Midwest. But you know Blacks can play in the SEC and Southwest Conference/Big 12 now and drink out of the same water fountain.
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I lived in the south in the early 70's and early 80, along with the Midwest. My God 10-20 years behind time.
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I lived in the south in the early 70's and early 80, along with the Midwest. My God 10-20 years behind time.
I lived in Massachusetts in the 60's, 70's, and New York in the 80's. My gawd 10-20 years behind time.
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I lived in Massachusetts in the 60's, 70's, and New York in the 80's. My gawd 10-20 years behind time.



What part of Massachusetts and New York is in the South?
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What part of Massachusetts and New York is in the South?
Nice try. Boston Mass was, still is, the most racist shithole in the US.
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Nice try. Boston Mass was, still is, the most racist shithole in the US.





I'am not talking just about racist dim wit. I'am talking about being 10-20 years behind time. Back in the 80's and early 90's you hardly ever saw a Japanese car on the road in the South including Texas, now it's very common.
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I'am not talking just about racist dim wit. I'am talking about being 10-20 years behind time. Back in the 80's and early 90's you hardly ever saw a Japanese car on the road in the South including Texas, now it's very common.
No, you STFU. WTF do Jap cars have to do with anything. Nice try, again, at deflecting.

Where do you thing Japanese and German cars that are sold in the US are made? It's not the NE or the Midwest. It's The South.
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No, you STFU. WTF do Jap cars have to do with anything. Nice try, again, at deflecting.

Where do you thing Japanese and German cars that are sold in the US are made? It's not the NE or the Midwest. It's The South.



You're dumber than people say you are.

“In 1958, Toyota became the first Japanese company to sell a mass-produced passenger car in the US. Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. (TMS) established in California in 1957. In 1982 Honda Accord rolled off the assembly line at the Marysville, Ohio, auto plant. And what year did the Japanese build Plants in the south and midwest maybe 20 to 30 years later?
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I still don't understand why some think that Elon is wealthy ONLY because of Tesla. Dude was a billionaire before Tesla was even created. Anyone ever hear of Paypal? Or SpaceX? Elon means more to the world than Tesla. You'd never catch me dead in a Tesla, but that has nothing to do with my appreciation for Elon as a human. IMO he's a national treasure.
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My like or dislike of a car has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the political stance of the individuals or companies producing them.
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But electric is the way it's going to be. ... People hate change especially in the South and Midwest.
And when, exactly is this going to happen?

It has nothing whatsoever to do with hating change. It has everything to do with EVs not being able to do what ICE vehicles can do with ease. I posted this in 1 of the other stupid threads.

Over the weekend I loaded up my decade old, 100k mile truck with an entire go-kart operation and 4 people and drove it 520 miles through the mountains in 18 degree weather. I filled up once over the weekend at the destination and drove it back... including an hour and a half traffic jam in the mountains of WV.

I made it with zero stops on either drive other than a quick stop to grab a burger with a simultaneous bathroom stop on the way there and a 5 minute rest area stop on the way back.

That is not some crazy exceptional, once in a lifetime excursion. That is a simple weekend trip no different than I make many times a year. There is no EV out there than can even come CLOSE to doing it. It is a very regular occurrence to drive to Indy, Columbus, Louisville, or any of the other "1 city away" locations. In about an hour I'm hopping into the S6, driving about 300 miles to Madisonville, KY and driving home later tonight. It's a nasty rainy day. Shockingly enough, I really don't feel like adding multiple hours of sitting in a parking lot in the rain into my day. EVs quite simply make these simple easy round trips.

If you never go more than a few miles from your house, great. They do what you need them to do. But maybe, just maybe, the resistance from the South and the Midwest comes from the fact that most of us actually travel beyond a tiny little bubble and use vehicles for more than driving to Target and Starbucks.
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I think the competition and innovation is amazing, the torque they put out is incredible. what I have an issue with is threatening my choice on what to drive while killing the ICE industry, force this shit down our throats is the problem. the gov needs to quit playing ****ing games with our lives
I agree, man! Let us live our lives and continue to promote competition. We'd get farther, faster.

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We went car shopping Saturday to look for a replacement for Kathy’s 7 year old Explorer. They had two of the EV “Mustangs” on the lot priced well. I’d actually consider one if they hadn’t already stopped producing them. We ended up with a new Explorer ST that she loves.
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No, you STFU. WTF do Jap cars have to do with anything. Nice try, again, at deflecting.

Where do you thing Japanese and German cars that are sold in the US are made? It's not the NE or the Midwest. It's The South.
My Toyota was made in Japan.
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I still don't understand why some think that Elon is wealthy ONLY because of Tesla. Dude was a billionaire before Tesla was even created. Anyone ever hear of Paypal? Or SpaceX? Elon means more to the world than Tesla. You'd never catch me dead in a Tesla, but that has nothing to do with my appreciation for Elon as a human. IMO he's a national treasure.
Yes but being worth a few billion compared to 200b is a completely different ballgame.

Tesla market cap = $550b after losing $95b this year.

Space X = $175b.

The large majority of his money comes from 20.5% stake in Tesla. He owns 42% of Space X which is worth $73b. He could not have purchased Twitter if he only owned SpaceX. Tesla made that possible.

Not sure why you'd not be caught dead in a Tesla. Its funny that a car could illicit such a strong response in someone simple bc it doesn't burn gasoline... sounds like a bit of an irrational phobia but you're completely entitled to it.
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That is not some crazy exceptional, once in a lifetime excursion. That is a simple weekend trip. There is no EV out there than can even come CLOSE to doing it. Maybe the resistance from the South and the Midwest comes from the fact that most of us actually use vehicles for more than driving to Target and Starbucks.


Because they'll never develop the EV to do that. No the FACT is 80% of people go to Target and Starbucks and a small percentage take their vehicles off road. Your thinking is the perfect example of someone from the Midwest and South.. Millions of people drive to work in their EV. Funny how you throw in Starbucks. Change scares you. Do i own a Tesla, NO. But i see it coming


I make a point with Yaddy about the Midwest and South 40-60 years ago and how they were slow to change in many area's and he brings up what's going on now in South and Midwest. I'am not talking about now, things have changed but they're always last from those regions for any major change. And you're the perfect example.
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