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Nobody wants to change the rules, when they’re winning the game, (including me ) but our system is unsustainable. S.S., Govt pensions, Medicare, etc., etc., etc… Those are promises made whole by robbing the next generation, not productive investments or “savings”. Nearly 34 trillion in public debt that can’t be blamed on the koolaid haired generation, alone. Really looks like SHTF now but I thought the same back in 2008 when the housing market collapsed. No telling how bad things are going to get before we hit bottom but it will take many generations to fix, if it’s possible at all. |
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and it just keeps getting better
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The current debt is around $33T. Trump's share is around $6.7T of that. Obama blew $7.6T in 2 terms, and Biden is on track to surpass them all before he dodders off the political stage. https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt...entage-7371225 |
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National Debt
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Very Most Excellent Thread Material!! THE DUDE nails it, AGAIN!! |
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End of Fiscal Year Debt (in Billions, Rounded) Major Events by Presidential Term 1929 $17 Market crash 1930 $16 Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act reduced trade 1931 $17 Dust Bowl drought raged 1932 $20 Hoover raised taxes 1933 $23 New Deal increased GDP and debt 1934 $27 1935 $29 Social Security 1936 $34 Tax hikes renewed Great Depression 1937 $36 Third New Deal 1938 $37 Dust Bowl ended 1939 $40 Depression ended 1940 $43 FDR increased spending and raised taxes 1941 $49 U.S. entered World War II 1942 $72 Defense tripled 1943 $137 1944 $201 Bretton Woods Agreement 1945 $259 World War II ended 1946 $269 Truman’s first-term budgets and recession 1947 $258 Cold War 1948 $252 Recession 1949 $253 Recession 1950 $257 Korean War boosted growth and debt 1951 $255 1952 $259 1953 $266 Recession when war ended 1954 $271 Eisenhower’s budgets and recession 1955 $274 1956 $273 1957 $271 Recession 1958 $276 Eisenhower’s 2nd term and recession 1959 $285 Fed raised rates 1960 $286 Recession 1961 $289 Bay of Pigs 1962 $298 JFK budgets and Cuban Missile Crisis 1963 $306 U.S. aids Vietnam; JFK killed 1964 $312 LBJ’s budgets and war on poverty 1965 $317 U.S. entered Vietnam War 1966 $320 1967 $326 1968 $348 1969 $354 Nixon took office 1970 $371 Recession 1971 $398 Wage-price controls 1972 $427 Stagflation 1973 $458 Nixon ended gold standard; OPEC oil embargo 1974 $475 Watergate; Nixon resigns; budget process created 1975 $533 Vietnam War ended 1976 $620 Stagflation 1977 $699 Stagflation 1978 $772 Carter budgets and recession 1979 $827 1980 $908 Fed Chairman Volcker raised fed rate to 20% 1981 $998 Reagan tax cut 1982 $1,142 Reagan increased spending 1983 $1,377 Jobless rate 10.8% 1984 $1,572 Increased defense spending 1985 $1,823 1986 $2,125 Reagan lowered taxes 1987 $2,350 Market crash 1988 $2,602 Fed raised rates 1989 $2,857 S&L Crisis 1990 $3,233 First Iraq War 1991 $3,665 Recession 1992 $4,065 1993 $4,411 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act 1994 $4,693 Clinton budgets 1995 $4,974 1996 $5,225 Welfare reform 1997 $5,413 1998 $5,526 Long-Term Capital Management crisis; recession 1999 $5,656 Glass-Steagall Act repealed 2000 $5,674 Budget surplus 2001 $5,807 9/11 attacks; Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act 2002 $6,228 War on Terror 2003 $6,783 Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act; second Iraq War 2004 $7,379 Second Iraq War 2005 $7,933 Bankruptcy Act; Hurricane Katrina 2006 $8,507 Bernanke chaired Fed 2007 $9,008 Banks crisis 2008 $10,025 Bank bailouts; quantitative easing (QE) 2009 $11,910 Bailout cost $250 billion; American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) added $242 billion 2010 $13,562 ARRA added $400B; payroll tax holiday ended; Obama tax cuts; Affordable Care Act; Simpson-Bowles debt reduction plan 2011 $14,790 Debt crisis, recession, and tax cuts reduced revenue 2012 $16,066 Fiscal cliff 2013 $16,738 Sequester; government shutdown 2014 $17,824 QE ended; debt ceiling crisis 2015 $18,151 Oil prices fell 2016 $19,573 Brexit 2017 $20,245 Congress raised the debt ceiling 2018 $21,516 Trump tax cuts 2019 $22,719 Trade wars 2020 $26,945 COVID-19 and recession 2021 $28,428 COVID-19 and American Rescue Plan Act 2022 $30,928 Inflation Reduction Act |
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Badger might like this thought regarding his love for boomers. The best thing about debt is when you die, you beat it.
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All that debt has to be paid by those who never benefitted from it.
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Should be made into a horror movie, I think 40+% by 2050:
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For 60% of those who occupy here, the repayment will not include them.
Thus, this is but a figment, nothing to be concerned with. |
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While some will stay slowing inflation, which will NEVER happen, is the key to driving down the cost of borrowing, the REAL ISSUE is servicing our National Debt.
The ever-increasing debt payments AND the ever-increasing annual deficits AND the ever-increasing national debt, will not allow many to EVER own a home. There are MUFUGE ramifications for failing to curb gov spending, japan is the very best example, read up on it so you know what will happen here in future years. |
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Trillion is the new billion.
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