Hey NOX

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Further thoughts,,,

It's typical here (Hell MOST places) that when someone makes the You never served comment the 'Likes' come in fast and furious. But I see these and wonder to myself; was this person a career military individual? If they were, what was their position? Did they see combat, live and work amongst the natives - so to speak- or work in a supply chain capacity somewhere? (Just an example) Or were they someone who enlisted for 2-5 years and got out. 25 years ago.

If they're the latter? You don't get to play that card regarding anything current IMHO. If you're the former? That's a different story.

Not to mention that career military have been "indoctrinated" so their point of view is a bit skewed one way.

[z06psi]

Indoctrinated in the truth.



That's my whole point.

[Jeff '79]

Like with the Bible, the truth can be interpreted in many different ways.

[mrvette]

MY only comment is about the stooopid 'leaders' getting us involved in all these foreign wars, in witch we gained NOTHING.......as a nation, but it did help enrich many folks making war goods from snacks to aircraft.....

BUT what did it prove?? About the only thing worth doing, the islamic war, was screwed up by poly-ticks......and we were stupid enough to train some islamics well enough to fly the plane, not take off or land, just in the air and even after all the BS those clowns have done for centuries???

BUTT, I think much of that is due to our commie dominated kolledges......



I was born in the DC region, grew older in Bethesda Md. and lived there for some 53 years, except a year in Fort Worth Tejas.....so my opinions and observations are based on a series of work friends/buddies many/most? of which had a TS clearance, as I did......Attended Univ/Md. Kolledge park Md, on the DC border.....B screwal, 4-5 out and out commie profs......

Some of you may know that toward the end of WW2 U/Md. was asked by the Feds to set up campuses for our GI's to attend.....still active in the early 60's....I suppose shut down today....??

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Further Thoughts II ,,,,,

Not everyone is suited for the military would you agree? Do you really WANT everyone to serve? I doubt it.

I didn't serve (As you're aware) but I'll bet my last buck -what I have left after my divorce that is- the military is a microcosm of society. You have good/bad and otherwise.

And don't forget the people in the private sector that support the military.

There is a high value put on military service in this country as there should be. But does it have to be at the expense of everyone else à la You didn't serve?.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by mrvette

MY only comment is about the stooopid 'leaders' getting us involved in all these foreign wars, in witch we gained NOTHING.......as a nation, but it did help enrich many folks making war goods from snacks to aircraft.....

BUT what did it prove?? About the only thing worth doing, the islamic war, was screwed up by poly-ticks......and we were stupid enough to train some islamics well enough to fly the plane, not take off or land, just in the air and even after all the BS those clowns have done for centuries???

BUTT, I think much of that is due to our commie dominated kolledges......



I was born in the DC region, grew older in Bethesda Md. and lived there for some 53 years, except a year in Fort Worth Tejas.....so my opinions and observations are based on a series of work friends/buddies many/most? of which had a TS clearance, as I did......Attended Univ/Md. Kolledge park Md, on the DC border.....B screwal, 4-5 out and out commie profs......

Some of you may know that toward the end of WW2 U/Md. was asked by the Feds to set up campuses for our GI's to attend.....still active in the early 60's....I suppose shut down today....??

Huh?

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Some of you may know that toward the end of WW2 U/Md. was asked by the Feds to set up campuses for our GI's to attend.....still active in the early 60's....I suppose shut down today....??

Nope.

UMUC.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Huh?

See, you just don't understand.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Further Thoughts II ,,,,,

Not everyone is suited for the military would you agree? Do you really WANT everyone to serve? I doubt it. NO

I didn't serve (As you're aware) but I'll bet my last buck -what I have left after my divorce that is- the military is a microcosm of society. You have good/bad and otherwise. YES

And don't forget the people in the private sector that support the military.

There is a high value put on military service in this country as there should be. But does it have to be at the expense of everyone else à la You didn't serve?. STFU

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by z06psi

See, you just don't understand.

Thank GOD for small miracles.

Originally Posted by z06psi

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Is a bullshit response from a fool. Jeff is absolutely entitled to his opinion which was my entire point. The whole notion of 'You never served so STFU' is, well, stupid.

FWIW: I never served in the military.

But I don't agree with this. I think of it like the guys on here who have never had children, and then criticize me about the way I raised my kids. Sure, they are entitled to their opinion, but they shouldn't be surprised that I view their input as coming from someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

I rarely take part in military discussion on message boards or in person, and when I do, it's usually to ask a question. I admit I don't know shit about the military itself, military strategies and tactics etc., so I generally STFU so nobody has to tell me to.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by Mick

FWIW: I never served in the military.

I rarely take part in military discussion on message boards or in person, and when I do, it's usually to ask a question. I admit I don't know shit about the military itself, military strategies and tactics etc., so I generally STFU so nobody has to tell me to.

That's exactly why I asked NOX. I figured that I'd get an answer from someone who has been there and that I wouldn't get trashed by him for asking.
I am also ignorant in military matters, so i asked.

edit.... I did play with GI Joes once and did play guns when I was little

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by Mick

FWIW: I never served in the military.

But I don't agree with this. I think of it like the guys on here who have never had children, and then criticize me about the way I raised my kids. Sure, they are entitled to their opinion, but they shouldn't be surprised that I view their input as coming from someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

I rarely take part in military discussion on message boards or in person, and when I do, it's usually to ask a question. I admit I don't know shit about the military itself, military strategies and tactics etc., so I generally STFU so nobody has to tell me to.

Fair, but your logic is flawed IMHO.

The things being discussed here are matters of national interest. If you tell your son football is dangerous you can't play, that's very much a personal decision that impacts only your immediate household.

I never had children. You can all drop a 'Thanks' on me below this response.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Mick

FWIW: I never served in the military.

But I don't agree with this. I think of it like the guys on here who have never had children, and then criticize me about the way I raised my kids. Sure, they are entitled to their opinion, but they shouldn't be surprised that I view their input as coming from someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

I called a certain entitled female out about this very topic and got attacked when I did by half the board.

Resulted in no shame or introspect by that same entitled female and emboldened her to continue acting like a clueless ****.


(No I am not talking about Jeff'79)

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Thomas

I never had children. You can all drop a 'Thanks' on me below this response.

How about another STFU?

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

On one hand, I think that we need a launching platform there

[Jeff '79]

A presence, a secure place do disembark from, for example, an aircraft carrier is to the ocean , as a military base is to land ,but in the theater.
Jeezus. Sorry I'm not up on the lingo and anacronyms.
Like you couldn't figure out what I meant like everyone else.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

A presence, a secure place do disembark from, for example, an aircraft carrier is to the ocean , as a military base is to land ,but in the theater.
Jeezus. Sorry I'm not up on the lingo and anacronyms.
Like you couldn't figure out what I meant like everyone else.

O.k. you missed the point as usual.

Where are we going from the "launching point"?

China, Iran, Tonga?

You do realize American Soldiers are being killed for a "launching point"? This is clueless and what pisses us Veterans off. The US military should never be used as a police force, nation builder, or a "launching point".

This is globalism and feeds the Industrial Military Complex.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by z06psi

O.k. you missed the point as usual.

Where are we going from the "launching point"?

China, Iran, Tonga?

You do realize American Soldiers are being killed for a "launching point"? This is clueless and what pisses us Veterans off. The US military should never be used as a police force, nation builder, or a "launching point".

This is globalism and feeds the Industrial Military Complex.

It's cheaper to already have and maintain one than to have to refit one all over again. It is my understanding that the drawdown will not eliminate all troops from the theater so I guess they will maintain a small presence?
I also guess that did miss your point.
Personally, I think they should all be pulled from the middle east and Afghanistan and let them kill each other. If a country decides to be a nuke threat, eliminate the facility.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

It's cheaper to already have and maintain one than to have to refit one all over again. It is my understanding that the drawdown will not eliminate all troops from the theater so I guess they will maintain a small presence?
I also guess that did miss your point.
Personally, I think they should all be pulled from the middle east and Afghanistan and let them kill each other. If a country decides to be a nuke threat, eliminate the facility.

Launching points in the ME if we were ever to stay there are Ali Al-Salem in Kuwait or Al-Udied in Qatar. Soldiers are not being killed there.


See if you had been there you would know that. But you haven't so you don't.

Thanks for solidifying all of my points for me.