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Old 08-06-2020, 9:42am   #1741
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Does this surprise anybody?

FaceBook meme or news story?

Post a link of actual article.
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https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020...6021596694984/
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OK, so? The question to ask is "Does Russia use HCQ in treating CoVID-19?"

The answer is yes. So there you go.

I would say our own media have launched a truly massive disinformation campaign on HCQ that started roughly 3 seconds after President Trump said it might be effective in that March news conference.
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Lea Gabrielle, the head of the State Department's Global Engagement Center.

hmmmm.....
"was a CIA-trained Human Intelligence Operations Officer"
"national television news correspondent and anchor."


"U.S. Navy Program Director, Navy F/A-18C Fighter Pilot"

Don't know whether to believe what she writes is fact.
But, she does have an extensive resume.
https://www.state.gov/biographies/lea-gabrielle/
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Lea Gabrielle, the head of the State Department's Global Engagement Center.

hmmmm.....
"was a CIA-trained Human Intelligence Operations Officer"
"national television news correspondent and anchor."


"U.S. Navy Program Director, Navy F/A-18C Fighter Pilot"

Don't know whether to believe what she writes is fact.
But, she does have an extensive resume.
https://www.state.gov/biographies/lea-gabrielle/
She looks good on paper. We need to know more about her positions on our current governmental/societal crisis. Give her some time and maybe she'll be the 1st female POTUS
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She looks good on paper. We need to know more about her positions on our current governmental/societal crisis. Give her some time and maybe she'll be the 1st female POTUS
6' tall. Right in my wheel house.

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Deaths from Tylenol worldwide each year versus HCQ? Yes Tylenol is heavily prescribed but ...

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Did not include critical care info below, since you all won't treat critical are patients.

Prophylaxis

While there is very limited data (and none specific for COVID-19), the following “cocktail” may
have a role in the prevention/mitigation of COVID-19 disease.
■ Vitamin C 500 mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg
at night
■ Vitamin D3 1000-4000 u/day
■ Optional: Famotidine 20-40mg/day

Mildly Symptomatic patients (at home):
■ Vitamin C 500mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin 6-12 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
■ Vitamin D3 2000-4000 u/day
■ Optional: Ivermectin 150-200ug/kg (single dose)
■ Optional: ASA 81/325mg/day
■ Optional: Famotidine 20-40mg/day


In symptomatic patients, monitoring with home pulse oximetry is recommended.
Ambulatory desaturation below 94% should prompt hospital admission

Mildly Symptomatic patients (on floor):
■ Vitamin C 500 mg PO q 6 hourly and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID (if available)
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin 6-12 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
■ Vitamin D3 2000-4000 u/day
■ Enoxaparin 60 mg daily
■ Famotidine 40mg daily (20mg in renal impairment)
■ Methylprednisolone 40 mg q 12 hourly; increase to 80 mg q 12 if poor response
■ Optional: Remdesivir 200mg D1 then 100mg daily for 9 days.
■ Optional: Ivermectin 150-200 ug/kg (single dose)
■ N/C 2L /min if required (max 4 L/min; consider early t/f to ICU for escalation of care).
■ T/f EARLY to the ICU for increasing respiratory signs/symptoms and arterial
desaturations.
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The bottom line for me is that I should be able to choose what medication I want...or none at all. If I think a garlic necklace and a voodoo doll will cure me, I should have that right. Sure, provide all the warnings, but it is bullshit to prohibit its use. It is causing people to suffer or die needlessly.
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The bottom line for me is that I should be able to choose what medication I want...or none at all. If I think a garlic necklace and a voodoo doll will cure me, I should have that right. Sure, provide all the warnings, but it is bullshit to prohibit its use. It is causing people to suffer or die needlessly.
What are you rambling about now?
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What are you rambling about now?
No one knows nor cares.
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It's been good to know you all.

I shook hands yesterday.

It's just a matter of time.
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Did not include critical care info below, since you all won't treat critical are patients.

Prophylaxis

While there is very limited data (and none specific for COVID-19), the following “cocktail” may
have a role in the prevention/mitigation of COVID-19 disease.
■ Vitamin C 500 mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg
at night
■ Vitamin D3 1000-4000 u/day
■ Optional: Famotidine 20-40mg/day

Mildly Symptomatic patients (at home):
■ Vitamin C 500mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin 6-12 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
■ Vitamin D3 2000-4000 u/day
■ Optional: Ivermectin 150-200ug/kg (single dose)
■ Optional: ASA 81/325mg/day
■ Optional: Famotidine 20-40mg/day


In symptomatic patients, monitoring with home pulse oximetry is recommended.
Ambulatory desaturation below 94% should prompt hospital admission

Mildly Symptomatic patients (on floor):
■ Vitamin C 500 mg PO q 6 hourly and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID (if available)
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin 6-12 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
■ Vitamin D3 2000-4000 u/day
■ Enoxaparin 60 mg daily
■ Famotidine 40mg daily (20mg in renal impairment)
■ Methylprednisolone 40 mg q 12 hourly; increase to 80 mg q 12 if poor response
■ Optional: Remdesivir 200mg D1 then 100mg daily for 9 days.
■ Optional: Ivermectin 150-200 ug/kg (single dose)
■ N/C 2L /min if required (max 4 L/min; consider early t/f to ICU for escalation of care).
■ T/f EARLY to the ICU for increasing respiratory signs/symptoms and arterial
desaturations.
79% less deaths per million in countries that have been using it all along. THERE'S THAT TINY DATA POINT!
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It's just a matter of time.
Anything good to sell?
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I shook hands yesterday.

It's just a matter of time.
Last Saturday, my neighbor had a "guy's BBQ" with about two dozen guys in attendance. I shook hands with at least a half dozen of them, and fist-bumped probably a dozen more. We drank beer and played cornhole for hours without anyone wearing a mask. I coughed once yesterday, so I checked with my neighbor, apparently he and I are the only remaining survivors, all the rest died of the COVID in the last 6 days.

The struggle is real.
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