The "over vs. under" toilet paper debate is over...

[lspencer534]

This is a picture of the 1891 patent on toilet paper:


This is patent number 465,599 dated December 22, 1891. The patent reveals that the end of the roll should be on the outside aka the over position.

Aren't you glad you asked...

[DAB]

that's only because the inventor was a guy.

[ApexOversteer]

Nah, it's only because that was the clearest way to configure the diagram.

[NeedSpeed]

And it does not show it connected to anything.

[lspencer534]

Originally Posted by NeedSpeed

And it does not show it connected to anything.

He's patenting the toilet paper, not the holder.

[CertInsaneC5]

He obviously was never a cat owner.

[NCC-1701]

The correct way is it coming out from under...there I said it.

[OldSarge]

Over the top is how it should be. I have been turning them over for years after my wife installs them under, you think she would learn after all these years, cause when she sits down, she always gets to spin it over.

[NCC-1701]

Spence put this in a poll form....

[Hoog]

It's always over, just some folks put it on the roll backwards.

[lspencer534]

Originally Posted by NCC-1701

Spence put this in a poll form....

Don't know how to do that once it's published.

[mrvette]

Over the last few years/Decades??? TP makers have expanded the size of the rolls in diameter and played with the width also.....trick is, if you have one of them antiquated ceramic TP holders recessed a bit into the wall, you do the UNDER trick, the larger rolls will spin friendly.....IF you do the up/over thing as shown, the bottom of the larger dia will grap the bottom of most holders, even the free standing ones and instead of you getting enough sheets to wipe your shit with....you get a crappy poker hand.....

CASE CLOSED......

BTDT......

[Y2Kvert4me]

Originally Posted by lspencer534

This is patent number 465,599 dated December 22, 1891.

No, it isn't.
That patent number was issued on Dec 22, 1891, but it's for a bicycle part.
US Patent 465599


I'm not sure when the roll configuration itself came about, but it clearly existed prior to Sept 15, 1891, when Seth Wheeler received patent #459,516 for the idea of incorporating pre-sliced sections in the material:
US Patent 459516

That same person also received a patent for a slight variation of that idea (with serrated seams), which is number 465,588 and dated Dec 22, 1891:
US Patent 465588

But these are both noted as "improvements in toilet paper rolls", they are not patents for the roll itself.

[vtelvr]

Over.

[Kerrmudgeon]

How else can I put that little point on the end of it except coming over the front.

You can go with the ass backward approach, letting the new paper hang against the disgusting germ ridden wall if you must, but you'll find the roll on the counter if I got to your house!

[m and t's77]

The bathroom that the cats can get to its under.The bedroom bathroom its over as it should be,I think that's how it goes...

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[lspencer534]

Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

No, it isn't.
That patent number was issued on Dec 22, 1891, but it's for a bicycle part.
US Patent 465599


I'm not sure when the roll configuration itself came about, but it clearly existed prior to Sept 15, 1891, when Seth Wheeler received patent #459,516 for the idea of incorporating pre-sliced sections in the material:
US Patent 459516

That same person also received a patent for a slight variation of that idea (with serrated seams), which is number 465,588 and dated Dec 22, 1891:
US Patent 465588

But these are both noted as "improvements in toilet paper rolls", they are not patents for the roll itself.

Facts??? We don't need no stinkin' facts!

[Milton Fox]

17.5 million hotel guest rooms cant be wrong!

[Knooger]

People who have it go under should be culled from this planet, they are deranged scum and nothing good can come from their continued existence.

[Bill]

That was one of Spence's first jobs, as a young patent lawyer.