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03-25-2024, 1:11pm | #1 | ||||||
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Stellantis no longer needs engineers I guess
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Somehow the corrupt admin, corrupt leeches in congress and the even-more-corrupt uaw losers will spin this onto TRUMP.
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The unions are going to kill domestic vehicle production... well, pretty much all production here in the States. Coupled with Government over regulation and you have nothing short of a perfect recipe for disaster and a need for Government to control everything.... the leftist dream.
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They've already been cutting "temp" workers. I'm sure it has nothing to do with massive labor costs that increased with last contract...
Foreign owned company, what do they care if fire American employees. |
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My math, not verified data: 1) car msrp $40K 2) 10% labor cost, $4K 3) saves 50% in messico 4) tariffs and transport into US, $2K My math says no real savings, so I am sure my math is off. BUT, even if off, if they save $1,000 does it really pay to build outside US?? |
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Plus the cost and regulations required to build a manufacturing facility is dramatically lower in Mexico and Asia. |
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Let's not forget alot of parts are made elsewhere also, not just the actual vehicle so savings is massive. |
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I remember in 2005 when I bought my caddy it was disclosed 72% of parts were USA-sourced. I do not recall seeing the same when I bought the XT5, but doubt it is higher. I would bet they save more on parts vs. assembly. |
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Except: No lawsuits No EPA conformance No Vacation/holiday constraints No arbitration No OSHA No hospitalization No Social Security No pensions No 401k contributions No DEI requirements No handicapped spaces, handrails, toilets, ramps etc. No wrongful termination suits I'm sure there's a lot more. |
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Engineers? EV's are so simple, why do you need'em? To fill up your touch screen with more music options?
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There are no 'engineers' at most OEM's anymore, outside of powertrain. They create literally nothing.
Most of the titles are integration engineers. Buy some shit from this supplier, buy some shit from that supplier, make it work. EV's are simpler and mostly developed by 3rd party suppliers, buy their motors, buy their control systems, slap it together. Here is a good example. Long ago GM came out with a rear wheel steering for the Silverado. I was working at Ram in Chassis systems. Went to the dealer, bought a Silverado with rear wheel steering. Brought it back, took out the rear axle, traced all the stuff back in the harness, hooked it up to power and the few sensors it wanted to see, drove it around a Ram with rear wheel steering in a few hours. Less and less is done at the OEM's, they are most marketing, design, and manufacturer, the engineer is done mostly by outside companies. |
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