We Remember: 31st Anniversary of the Mass Murder in Waco

[Bill]

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Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Experience has taught us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession, and when the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

~George Washington

[Mick]

I'm not going to defend the government actions here, however, I remain unconvinced that Koresh didn't start the fire himself.

[ZipZap]

Look, Koresh was an asshole. Defending pedo's and abusers is not my thing. Had no issue with him being toast.

FBI caused the deaths of innocent people. Again. Some SES1 asswipe decided this was his day and let loose. I've never read about who made the decision to roll in the tanks, but it was some bureaucrat.

[GTOguy]

Koresh was evil. That said, I watched the whole video years ago and the police/FBI fired the first shots. And caused the shitstorm that followed.

[Onebadcad]

koresh was an ahole that deserved MOAR than death!!

However, the socialist gov at the time was grossly incompetent, in all areas.
The timing, tactics and management were utterly poor, NO CHILDREN SHOULD HAVE DIED!!

[Rodnok1]

Alot of things went wrong and alot of people were responsible for that.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Rodnok1

Alot of things went wrong and alot of people were responsible for that.

And ZERO were held accountable.

[WydGlydJim]

yeah Koresh was an asshole, but this dipshit DEI, Lesbo, Identity Hire was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out over her skis, and should have NEVER been in charge of that situation that she totally botched! Then just like the rest of these old fossils in politics, she hung around waaaaaaaay too long after her health rendered her feckless.........

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by WydGlydJim

yeah Koresh was an asshole, but this dipshit DEI, Lesbo, Identity Hire was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out over her skis, and should have NEVER been in charge of that situation that she totally botched! Then just like the rest of these old fossils in politics, she hung around waaaaaaaay too long after her health rendered her feckless.........

Good Lord that sounds familiar!

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

And ZERO were held accountable.

Did she make the final call? Never heard if it was entirely planned to roll in, or f'ed up somewhat by the "fog of war" that they themselves created. We will never hear that.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

Did she make the final call? Never heard if it was entirely planned to roll in, or f'ed up somewhat by the "fog of war" that they themselves created. We will never hear that.

Not sure, but she understood the blame was on her:

https://time.com/4560375/attorney-ge...et-reno-death/

Shortly after she was sworn into the role of Attorney General, Reno became embroiled in controversy over the deadly raid she ordered following a standoff between the Branch Davidians, a religious sect, and federal agents at the sect’s compound near Waco, Texas.

The standoff, which began on Feb. 28 1993, before Reno became Attorney General, was sparked when U.S. agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms made a surprise raid on the compound, trying to execute a search warrant. Gunfire erupted during the raid, and four agents and six members of the religious sect perished.

That led to a 51-day standoff, which ended on April 19 1993, when Reno approved a raid on the compound using tear gas. During the raid, a fire broke out and the complex burned to the ground, killing around 80 people including the sect’s American leader, David Koresh. Later that day, Reno took full blame of the incident, telling television cameras “I’m accountable. The buck stops with me.”

[Aerovette]

This incident, or a Ruby Ridge incident, is in our near future.

The more this administration fks with people the more likely someone will get fed up and step up. A very loud, clear message will be sent.

It's coming.

[69camfrk]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

Look, Koresh was an asshole. Defending pedo's and abusers is not my thing. Had no issue with him being toast.

FBI caused the deaths of innocent people. Again. Some SES1 asswipe decided this was his day and let loose. I've never read about who made the decision to roll in the tanks, but it was some bureaucrat.

They literally could have arrested Koresh at the auto parts store. This was mass murder.

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by 69camfrk

They literally could have arrested Koresh at the auto parts store. This was mass murder.

Just little details that hardly get mentioned by the fair and balanced MSM!

[Onebadcad]

koresh was a psychopath, unstable, fraud, opportunist with a thirst for fame that included an end of martyrdom.

The us gov facilitated the means for him to fulfill his goal, they were TOO STUPID to recognize this and back off.

The siege was 51 days, no one in the gov in this period was wise enough to figure his endgame.

4 ATF agents also perished due to incompetent leadership,

[Aerovette]

Just my opinion...

The FBI was getting restless and needed something to happen
They were also cocky and very poorly evaluated the situation, which resulted in agents getting killed
They had to have an overkill response to send a message that killing agents will be met with extreme force

[Anjdog2003]

Where was President Trump all this time?

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

Just my opinion...

The FBI was getting restless and needed something to happen
They were also cocky and very poorly evaluated the situation, which resulted in agents getting killed
They had to have an overkill response to send a message that killing agents will be met with extreme force

51 days of amateurs running the show is the first, and biggest, problem.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

This incident, or a Ruby Ridge incident, is in our near future.

The more this administration fks with people the more likely someone will get fed up and step up. A very loud, clear message will be sent.

It's coming.

That unarmed veteran 26 year-old white female stood up at the Capitol and was murdered by that armed black guy. With zero consequences.

[Torqaholic]

Originally Posted by 69camfrk

They literally could have arrested Koresh at the auto parts store. This was mass murder.

It needed to be a spectacle to justify the demonization klinton had done to gun owners. The government mindset had become such that being seen carrying a gun to the trunk of your car could get you arrested for an investigation.