Road tolls

[VatorMan]

YHGTBSM. We pay to build them and now will pay to drive on them.

White House opens door to tolls on interstate highways, removing long-standing prohibition - The Washington Post

With pressure mounting to avert a transportation funding crisis this summer, the Obama administration Tuesday opened the door for states to collect tolls on interstate highways to raise revenue for roadway repairs.

The proposal, contained in a four-year, $302 billion White House transportation bill, would reverse a long-standing federal prohibition on most interstate tolling.

With transportation funding in jeopardy, money to repair deficient bridges may not be there.
Though some older segments of the network — notably the Pennsylvania and New Jersey turnpikes and Interstate 95 in Maryland and Interstate 495 in Virginia — are toll roads, most of the 46,876-mile system has been toll-free.

“We believe that this is an area where the states have to make their own decisions,” said Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “We want to open the aperture, if you will, to allow more states to choose to make broader use of tolling, to have that option available.”

The question of how to pay to repair roadways and transit systems built in the heady era of post-World War II expansion is demanding center stage this spring, with projections that traditional funding can no longer meet the need.

That source, the Highway Trust Fund, relies on the 18.4-cent federal gas tax, which has eroded steadily as vehicles have become more energy efficient.

“The proposal comes at the crucial moment for transportation in the last several years,” Foxx said. “As soon as August, the Highway Trust Fund could run dry. States are already canceling or delaying projects because of the uncertainty.”

While providing tolling as an option to states, the White House proposal relies on funding from a series of corporate tax reforms, most of them one-time revenue streams that would provide a four-year bridge to close the trust-fund deficit and permit $150 billion more in spending than the gas tax will bring in.

The corporate tax reform proposal has gotten a lukewarm reception even from Democrats in Congress, and Foxx emphasized that the administration is open to any counterproposal that wins bipartisan support.

With the trust fund about to run into the red and the current federal highway bill set to expire Sept. 30, Congress cannot — as its members often note — keep “kicking the can down the road.”

Even a temporary extension of the current bill would require them to authorize a transfer of money from the general fund.

Details of the president’s proposal, which he first outlined almost two months ago, were welcomed as a sign of growing momentum toward a resolution, even by those who couldn’t fully embrace his plan.

“While we may not agree with all aspects of the administration’s proposal, we look forward to the continuing dialogue with Congress and the administration on charting America’s transportation future,” said Bud Wright, executive director of the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials.

Terry O’Sullivan, president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America, said the bill helped “advance the discussion” but said a federal gas tax increase should be used to fund it.

“The gas tax remains the most tested and logical way of meeting our critical investment needs,” O’Sullivan said.

“For too long, Congress’s duct-tape approach has made our roads and bridges unsafe, destabilized the construction industry and slowed our economy.”

The federal tax last was raised in 1993 and has not been adjusted for inflation.

Another advocacy group, the nonprofit Transportation for America, spelled out its concerns Tuesday in a report, “The looming financial disaster for transportation.”

The report provided a state-by-state accounting of the percentage of transportation funding that came from Washington. In most cases, it amounted to about half, though some states were far more dependent on federal dollars. (Federal funds accounted for 52 percent of the District’s funding, 49 percent of Maryland’s and almost 59 percent of Virginia’s.)

It also broke down the funding that would be lost by each major metropolitan area without federal revenue, pegging the Washington region’s loss at $424 million.

“Congress has an opportunity to not only save the transportation program, but to recommit to investing in the repairs and improvements our communities and businesses need,” said James Corless, the group’s director.

Corless predicted that most Americans would accept tax increases to fund transportation.

“When people understand where the dollars are being spent, the direct impact to their lives, they support paying their fair share,” he said.

Foxx said the highway trust fund would face a $63 billion shortfall over the next four years.

“What our proposal would do is [use] pro-growth business tax reform to backfill in the highway trust fund,” Foxx said. “We would put that $63 billion back in place to stabilize the highway trust fund, and then the additional $90 billion would be spent on new programs.”

He said the $302 billion bottom line for the proposal would be reached “through a combination of existing taxes that go to the highway trust fund that would equate to $152 billion on their own, and then $150 billion in transitional revenues from pro-growth tax reform.”

The proposal emphasizes a fix-it-first approach that would give funding priority to existing roads, bridges and transit systems rather than expanding their network.

It would expand reforms intended to streamline environmental reviews and project delivery that were begun in the current federal highway bill.

It also would expand popular loan-guarantee programs that have been used by state and local governments to fund projects. The White House plan would almost double funding — from $12.3 billion to $22.3 billion — for transit systems and intercity passenger rail.

In addition, the plan would increase the fine an automaker could face for a safety violation from the current $35 million to $300 million.

Though that proposal is not new, it takes on greater significance amid the debate over General Motors’s delayed recall of 2 million cars with faulty ignition switches that are alleged to have led to at least 13 deaths.

[MrPeabody]

Don't we spend that much money in Afghanistan like every week?

[VatorMan]

The problem is-Once the toll road is up-It will NEVER go away. Even after whatever it was used for is paid, it will stay.

[CP]

The gubmint makes more money on a gallon of fuel than the company that took all the risk to make it.

[NeedSpeed]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

The problem is-Once the toll road is up-It will NEVER go away. Even after whatever it was used for is paid, it will stay.

They were supposed to take them down in Chicago. Now they've streamlined collection.

[Kevin_73]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

The problem is-Once the toll road is up-It will NEVER go away. Even after whatever it was used for is paid, it will stay.

That's not necessarily true. The road between downtown Dallas and downtown Ft Worth (that is now part of I30) used to be a toll road. I remember my step mother making us search for change under the seats of our station wagon every time we would go to Arlington when I was a kid.
I think it was some time in the mid 80's that they took the toll booths out. Some of the exits are still really odd though because they were designed to accommodate the toll booth.

Eidt:
It was actually 1978 when they took out the took out the toll booths.
http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-030.html
Damn I feel old.

[Broken Wind]

Hos gotta eat.

[Admiral Blue]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

The problem is-Once the toll road is up-It will NEVER go away. Even after whatever it was used for is paid, it will stay.

Wrong. They are going to go away in Chicagoland once the construction is completed in the 1970s.

Scammers.

[...Whitepower...]

Originally Posted by Kevin_73

That's not necessarily true. The road between downtown Dallas and downtown Ft Worth (that is now part of I30) used to be a toll road. I remember my step mother making us search for change under the seats of our station wagon every time we would go to Arlington when I was a kid.
I think it was some time in the mid 80's that they took the toll booths out. Some of the exits are still really odd though because they were designed to accommodate the toll booth.

They are taking them out in ATL on 400 now too.

Ga. 400 tolls to officially end on Nov. 22 | www.ajc.com

[Bucwheat]

Give Obama a chance and we will all be on food stamps.

[markids77]

Now wait just a minute... this program will already generate $152 BILLION as it stands currently in the next 4 years. There are only 50 States, so a bit of division tells me there should be something like 3 BILLION available to each and every single State over the next 4 years... and apparently should have been right along. Anybody else wonder why we every street in America doesn't already have brandy new blacktop at that rate of spending?

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by markids77

Now wait just a minute... this program will already generate $152 BILLION as it stands currently in the next 4 years. There are only 50 States, so a bit of division tells me there should be something like 3 BILLION available to each and every single State over the next 4 years... and apparently should have been right along. Anybody else wonder why we every street in America doesn't already have brandy new blacktop at that rate of spending?

I know the state of Florida, and certain Clay Co. where I reside, is run by idiots, shit, they can't even pick which/what road to resurface in this 40 y/o burb, most of then are total shit with pothole patches everywhere in site, but you think for a second they FIX the friggin' POTHOLES, no no and SHIT no, they resurface roads that don't NEED IT!!!! and then make them basically impassable by adding speed bumps and nasty as hell rumble strips that beat the ever loving shit outta any vehicle except a LT truck TALL tire....any normal car is shaken to death at any speed, freeking idiots....

[DAB]

Originally Posted by Bucwheat

Give Obama a chance and we will all be on food stamps.

true story:

filed my state return, i had over paid quarterlies last year, so had a refund coming. filled out the line to roll it over to this year's estimated. some clerk mis reads it, sends me a check. also in the envelope was a flier for food stamps. sure enough, our taxable income was below the threshold. had a mess of deductions.

no, i don't need food stamps.

[Grey Ghost]

Are people ever going to say enough is enough of the .gov grab.

[Ch@0s]

Here in Houston tolls end up costing more than gas.

[wicked_c6]

Did we not just drop a trillion like 6 years ago on the American reinvestment act which went to fixing roads and bridges? 1trillion seems like enough to pave our roads in silver

[snide]

Originally Posted by DAB

no, i don't need food stamps.

Can't imagine they'd taste any good, let alone fill one up.

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by snide

Can't imagine they'd taste any good, let alone fill one up.

Useless to send a letter with, too.

[99 pewtercoupe]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

The problem is-Once the toll road is up-It will NEVER go away. Even after whatever it was used for is paid, it will stay.

Illinois

[Dave]

“We believe that this is an area where the states have to make their own decisions,”

Ohhh, so THIS is the issue where Obama is finally in favor of state rights!

Anyone else shocked that he's not just going after a federal toll on all of them?