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Old 04-05-2017, 11:50am   #41
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Two of my closest friends in the world are gay, one male, one female. I don't give a shit, and I would do anything in the world for either of them.
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Barry Manilow approves this thread and so do I.

I'm gonna have an extra big helping of sweaty cock for dinner.
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I dunno seems it's not very polarizing at all.

In fact there seems to be a consensus of keep your love/sex life to yourself and we're all good.

It's pretty much the folks seeking attention who cause the issues for everyone.

And that goes for any/all groups.

Just my .02 FWIW. YMMV.
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po·lar·ize
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restrict the vibrations of (a transverse wave, especially light) wholly or partially to one direction.
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cause (something) to acquire polarity.
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divide or cause to divide into two sharply contrasting groups or sets of opinions or beliefs.
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Barry Manilow approves this thread and so do I.

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No pics !!!
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No pics !!!
C'mon man!

You bitchin' here about equal opportunity and ole Thomas is willing.
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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C'mon man!

You bitchin' here about equal opportunity and ole Thomas is willing.


Barry Manilow's hog is magnificent.
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one of the easiest things to do is to throw around slurs.

"you're a racist"
"you hate women" (sorry, didn't want to look up misogynist)
"you're a homophobe"
"you hate muslims" (same with xenophobic)

and of course, if you are falsely accused, you deny it, and the accuser notes that anyone who is one or more of the above always denies it. so you spend your half the debate denying a lie, and never get to the point.

The Bible has quite a bit to say about homosexuals. in both the OT and NT, so an educated Jew or Christian will know what it says and believe it is against God's plan, and therefore be against it as well.

that doesn't mean that I'm scared of catching cooties, or that I'm irrationally afraid of gays, but it does mean that I believe that what is being done is morally wrong. and if you ask me, I might tell you. but I certainly will not be joining any parade, signing any petition, or in any way celebrating what I believe is sin.

so with that, expect someone to label me as a "homophobe" and shut down any further discussion, and just bash me..... did you see that? i'm the one being bashed? not them by me. cute trick.

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C'mon man!

You bitchin' here about equal opportunity and ole Thomas is willing.
I never said I wanted to see it in public... Or private, for that matter.
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I never said I wanted to see it in public...
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This thread is throbbing with approval.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:34pm   #53
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I'm over it.

Don't give a s**t to be honest.
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What I DO have a problem with is you expecting me to applaud you, tell you how brave you are, and celebrate you for it.
Exactly.

Barry Manilow just "came out" as being gay. It was a shock to almost no one. You have to ask yourself: Is it really necessary to issue a press release or conduct an interview to inform the public of your sexual preference? You could have just gone on with your life as it was. You've been with your partner 36 years. Another 36 would have made no difference. And there will certainly be those who cite Manilow's "bravery". Supposedly, he remained quiet because he "didn't want to disappoint his fans." What a crock. I'm sure that not wanting to torpedo a multi-platinum singing career by waiting until a more favorable social climate existed was a more logical reason. Brave my ass.

It's this kind of grandstanding that people dislike. And it has nothing to do with what sex the person you sleep with is.
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My approach is very very simple. I really don't give the slightest crap if someone is gay.

What I DO have a problem with is you expecting me to applaud you, tell you how brave you are, and celebrate you for it.

You want to be treated just like everybody else? Great. You want me to treat you like you are special because of who you want to screw? Piss off. The problem for those that simply want to live their lives is that a HUGE number don't want equality as they claim. They want to be celebrated. Nope. Not happening.
This is my position on it. It exists. It does not mean you get to take over the airwaves, or have entire episodes or seasons dedicated to you. Just "be". There are VERY few instances where the plot line requires that the person declare their homosexuality, yet the networks insist on making it a focal point. Who cares? Be gay, be straight, be whatever. What does it add if you announce it? What doe sit take away if you don't?
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if you claim to be a member of some 'oppressed' group, for Mr. Manilow his group today is "gay", and then have great further success, you can then claim that society has finally accepted the group you belong to. and if you suffer loss thereafter, then you claim that our oppressive society still has a long way to go.

either way you get something out of the deal you can argue about later. either society has embraced your oppressed group as part of the mainstream of society (see President Obama for an example of this), and anyone who still doesn't sign on the dotted line obviously needs to be 're-educated' and brought around, or you get to claim continued victim status and lobby for more goodies from society (see trans bathrooms for an example of this presently).

none of the above affect my day-to-day life, but that doesn't mean i don't hold an opinion on any of this.

for along time, blacks all fell into the "oppressed" group, and the only way to move up was via social handouts (such as affirmative action), and if you didn't go that route, you were labeled as a sell out, an Uncle Tom (see Justice Thomas as an example of this, also Dr. Carson).

how about you go do your thing, stop blaming others for your failures, and go do something worthwhile.

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Exactly.

Barry Manilow just "came out" as being gay. It was a shock to almost no one. You have to ask yourself: Is it really necessary to issue a press release or conduct an interview to inform the public of your sexual preference? You could have just gone on with your life as it was. You've been with your partner 36 years. Another 36 would have made no difference. And there will certainly be those who cite Manilow's "bravery". Supposedly, he remained quiet because he "didn't want to disappoint his fans." What a crock. I'm sure that not wanting to torpedo a multi-platinum singing career by waiting until a more favorable social climate existed was a more logical reason. Brave my ass.

It's this kind of grandstanding that people dislike. And it has nothing to do with what sex the person you sleep with is.
I think you miss the point of "coming out".
Barry Manilow, IMHO, didn't come out for applause.
I believe that he came out to finally admit to everyone that he was gay, and to help other gays know that it is acceptable to do the same.
And, he's old. That opens up a whole new population of tail that would not normally approach him .
I can see what you said in the bolded though.
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if he and his partner (assuming he has one, i don't know) know about this, why do I, or anyone else, need to know?

see my above posts for my theories.
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My approach is very very simple. I really don't give the slightest crap if someone is gay.

What I DO have a problem with is you expecting me to applaud you, tell you how brave you are, and celebrate you for it.

You want to be treated just like everybody else? Great. You want me to treat you like you are special because of who you want to screw? Piss off. The problem for those that simply want to live their lives is that a HUGE number don't want equality as they claim. They want to be celebrated. Nope. Not happening.
Well said.
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I think you miss the point of "coming out".
Barry Manilow, IMHO, didn't come out for applause.
I believe that he came out to finally admit to everyone that he was gay, and to help other gays know that it is acceptable to do the same.
And, he's old. That opens up a whole new population of tail that would not normally approach him .
Nope. I know exactly what the point is. And my point is why is it so important? Why do we have to make a public statement about it? Unless you're living under a rock, you know that there are really no ramifications to being gay.

It would be like Thomas coming out to finally admit he has a small penis. I mean, we all know it, but why the press conference?

Now, old tail? That's a whole 'nother issue entirely.
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