Support a Soldier

[higgyburners]

Let's say I could easily acquire (Hypothetically) 10k Rounds of 5.56 from my reserve to send to Ukrainian soldiers to aid in the war on Ukraine. Then lets say 40% to 50% (334 Million) of Americans are in the same position and 1/2 want to help (167 Million) that would be one trillion six hundred and seventy billion rounds of aid from Americans. Now lets say we believe Russia and they have 300,000 active military (forced) in Ukraine. how could Americans get this done.

I'm not very good at math but i like the numbers....

[Louie Detroit]

**** Ukraine and Russia.

[Stangkiller]

Sounds like a great ploy to disarm americans

[Bruze]

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by Stangkiller

Sounds like a great ploy to disarm americans

Exactly. If I am acquiring ammo, I sure as hell ain't sending it to somebody else...especially some foreigners I don't know or have any interest in knowing.

[Frankie the Fink]

You think additional small arms donations will let a clown corrupt comedian, who brought war to his country, defeat the land of 12 time zones. And then you assume ANYTHING sent over there will make it to their intended recipients instead of being sold off to the highest bidder or smuggled off to terrorists.
Adorable.

The Ukraine has already lost and never had a chance and is now a money laundering scheme for Blackrock. Good grief.

And before anybody calls me a Putin lover, I spent time in Army intelligence in Sinop Turkey spying on the Russians...

[slewfoot]

Right now, I'm more concerned about a PetSmart billing fkup I need to get fixed.

[Bill]

But for the US sending $ 400+B to Ukraine, the 'war' would have lasted a couple of weeks, maybe a month, ending in Russia taking the ethnic Russian areas to the east that have been suffering from guerilla warfare already, plus an agreement that Ukraine would NOT join NATO, and that would have been it. War's over. Tens of thousands of White people would still be alive, Ukraine wouldn't be a smoking wreck right now, and we wouldn't be expected to pay to rebuild Ukraine. Guess who's going to pay for that? If you guessed your great, great grandkids, you'd be right.

No, I'm not sending ONE cartridge to Ukraine, and I don't want one dollar of taxpayer money sent there either. Not our circus, not our monkeys. NATO was geared toward defending against the Soviet Union. There is no more Soviet Union, and Russia certainly isn't big or powerful enough to take over the world anymore. The actual threat is China. NATO could be retasked with that, and what we should have done was to become friends with Russia now that they've thrown off the yoke of communism.

White people are a minority world wide, we should probably stick together from now on.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

But for the US sending $ 400+B to Ukraine, the 'war' would have lasted a couple of weeks, maybe a month, ending in Russia taking the ethnic Russian areas to the east that have been suffering from guerilla warfare already, plus an agreement that Ukraine would NOT join NATO, and that would have been it. War's over. Tens of thousands of White people would still be alive, Ukraine wouldn't be a smoking wreck right now, and we wouldn't be expected to pay to rebuild Ukraine. Guess who's going to pay for that? If you guessed your great, great grandkids, you'd be right.

No, I'm not sending ONE cartridge to Ukraine, and I don't want one dollar of taxpayer money sent there either. Not our circus, not our monkeys. NATO was geared toward defending against the Soviet Union. There is no more Soviet Union, and Russia certainly isn't big or powerful enough to take over the world anymore. The actual threat is China. NATO could be retasked with that, and what we should have done was to become friends with Russia now that they've thrown off the yoke of communism.

White people are a minority world wide, we should probably stick together from now on.

Russia wants all of ukraine because of at least four reasons.

1. Deep water ports on the arctic ocean
2. Nuke capabilities (power generation)
3. Fossil Fuel production
4. Ukraine was the Soviet bread basket where most of their grain was farmed and they don't want to rely on imports.

[Anjdog2003]

You want to support a soldier? Give to the DAV.

[Onebadcad]

I would not give the comedian and his wife another EFFING dollar.
he has been given more than enough, no one knows where it went or is, this is a money hole that keeps getting deeper.

[Aerovette]

This was nothing more than an ad campaign to join NATO.

[DJ_Critterus]

I'm not opposed to sending a few BoD's, though.

[higgyburners]

Originally Posted by Anjdog2003

You want to support a soldier? Give to the DAV.

Will do...

And for the rest of you uptight bastards...Thanks for the info. I was watching the YouTube videos on what is going on over there and I guess It got to my sympathetic side....I absolutely hate seeing what goes on with the women and children of War.

[Anjdog2003]

Originally Posted by higgyburners

Will do...

And for the rest of you uptight bastards...Thanks for the info. I was watching the YouTube videos on what is going on over there and I guess It got to my sympathetic side....I absolutely hate seeing what goes on with the women and children of War.

Better yet go to the nearest V.A and talk to some soldiers that will be missing parts of their bodies and minds. Vietnam or Iraq. A lot have given up hope.

[BayouCountry]

Originally Posted by higgyburners

Will do...

And for the rest of you uptight bastards...Thanks for the info. I was watching the YouTube videos on what is going on over there and I guess It got to my sympathetic side....I absolutely hate seeing what goes on with the women and children of War.

I don’t need to watch YouTube videos to know war is hell and Putin is evil.

If you voted democrat you have to own it, just like I have to own Bush’s f’n war when I voted for that dumb shit. Carter made me a republican and Bush made me an independent.

The US should have assured Russia that Ukraine would not join NATO. Asshat Biden opened the door with his just take a little bit of land comment. Trump would not have made those weak minded strategic mistakes.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by higgyburners

Will do...

And for the rest of you uptight bastards...Thanks for the info. I was watching the YouTube videos on what is going on over there and I guess It got to my sympathetic side....I absolutely hate seeing what goes on with the women and children of War.

Your tax dollars are directly paying to create their suffering. This is why voting matters so much. If you want to end their suffering, vote out the politicians that are funding it, and replace them with people who will NOT fund their suffering.

And a few years from now, we've created a whole crop of young foreigners who will ALSO hate the US. This is not winning.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Russia wants all of ukraine because of at least four reasons.

1. Deep water ports on the arctic ocean
2. Nuke capabilities (power generation)
3. Fossil Fuel production
4. Ukraine was the Soviet bread basket where most of their grain was farmed and they don't want to rely on imports.

They already had Crimea....got it during the O6ama regime. No problem. They already had that sweet, sweet, deepwater submarine port. I doubt they need any more nukes......Hillary sold them all the raw materials they needed, and IIRC, the Trump rUsSiAn CuHlOoZiUn special counsel Mueller actually hand delivered samples of the merchandise before the sale was consumated.

As to the farmland, yeah, that's a definite strategic asset, but I'm sure Russia would have settled for just the eastern provinces populated by ethnic Russians, and a guarantee Ukraine wouldn't join NATO. They legitimately need a buffer between themselves and NATO....like Belarus is. I can also see the benefits to controlling Ukraine for present and future pipelines. As Germany and the rest of Europe are finding out, it's hard to maintain that first world lifestyle without natural gas, and Russia's got plenty.

Having said that, I bet fracking would yield plenty of natural gas in Europe, but they refuse to do it, rather, experiment with suicidal "green new deal" bullshit that has proven to be a failure there.

[Frankie the Fink]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

But for the US sending $ 400+B to Ukraine, the 'war' would have lasted a couple of weeks, maybe a month, ending in Russia taking the ethnic Russian areas to the east that have been suffering from guerilla warfare already, plus an agreement that Ukraine would NOT join NATO, and that would have been it. War's over. Tens of thousands of White people would still be alive, Ukraine wouldn't be a smoking wreck right now, and we wouldn't be expected to pay to rebuild Ukraine. Guess who's going to pay for that? If you guessed your great, great grandkids, you'd be right.

No, I'm not sending ONE cartridge to Ukraine, and I don't want one dollar of taxpayer money sent there either. Not our circus, not our monkeys. NATO was geared toward defending against the Soviet Union. There is no more Soviet Union, and Russia certainly isn't big or powerful enough to take over the world anymore. The actual threat is China. NATO could be retasked with that, and what we should have done was to become friends with Russia now that they've thrown off the yoke of communism.

White people are a minority world wide, we should probably stick together from now on.

Trump said in a city hall that he would end that war in 24 hours in a public town hall and you could hear a pin drop. Everybody knew that he could ,and would, do it.

[Frankie the Fink]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Russia wants all of ukraine because of at least four reasons.

1. Deep water ports on the arctic ocean
2. Nuke capabilities (power generation)
3. Fossil Fuel production
4. Ukraine was the Soviet bread basket where most of their grain was farmed and they don't want to rely on imports.

Except the Ukraine is a devastated wasteland now and I don't know how much of what you delineate is even extant at this time.