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Old 01-22-2024, 9:48am   #61
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Sounds like he's only putting in a long stemmed spigot and hoping for the best, no shutoff
Must have 2x12 studs then
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so I'm a bit confused....you're going to cut the sheet rock to put in shut off valves but going to seal them up with no access panel ?

No, he's going to replace the existing ones with freezeproof ones, which are common in the north but not common where it rarely freezes. The valve on them are actually inside the wall with the handle connected to a long rod that opens the valve, instead of having the valve itself outside the house.
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Must have 2x12 studs then
Unfortunately only 4” on that wall, plus the brick, so putting in 4” (the smallest) sillcock available. Ill still cover the faucets and may even need heat anyways, but given we have a generator on the house, Im moving forward assuming the house will always be heated. There is no convenient place for covers for cutoff valves, nor do these pipes come from the attic (between floors). So this is an improvement and still some exposure, but hopefully enough to handle one hardfreeze into the teens a year.
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there is entirely too much spigotry in this thread

Spigga please.
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I put a access panel in our living room but it is behind the couch,which will never be anywhere else position wise. Below is unheated but insulated garage,that would have been the other option .
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I put a access panel in our living room but it is behind the couch,which will never be anywhere else position wise. Below is unheated but insulated garage,that would have been the other option .
My wifes a designer, i cant get away with things that are function over form

When i thawed the frozen faucets last week, it didnt require much heat, so clearly the ice was only on the exterior of the house.
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Anyone ever tried these? If so, do they work well?

Freeze Miser - Outdoor Faucet Freeze Protection
https://www.amazon.com/Freeze-Miser-...TVG/ref=sr_1_9
From the ads and videos it "appears" these allow a slow drip. That's th reason I didn't buy one. I don't want to come out and find an ice column 3 feet tall and hard frozen ground around the pipe exiting the ground.
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Pic of damaged spigot? I assume it split somewhere, parallel with the pipe, and the leak is a drip, not spraying water all over?

I didn't remove any of the protective coverings to actually check, but I did feel around the ground underneath the spigots, to check for wet ground. Everything was dry, so I guess I did OK. Of course, areas farther north and west of me had lower temperatures, and insulating those exterior lines can only slow down their freezing, not actually stop it, so my strategy may not have worked if my house was situated in a different area.
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Pic of damaged spigot? I assume it split somewhere, parallel with the pipe, and the leak is a drip, not spraying water all over?

I didn't remove any of the protective coverings to actually check, but I did feel around the ground underneath the spigots, to check for wet ground. Everything was dry, so I guess I did OK. Of course, areas farther north and west of me had lower temperatures, and insulating those exterior lines can only slow down their freezing, not actually stop it, so my strategy may not have worked if my house was situated in a different area.
No split, its actually likely repairable. I believe its the packing/gasket around the hose bib handle. Just if i have to turn off the water, id rather do this once, as honestly that was the lightest freeze we've had in the last 3 years.
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I installed this for my backyard faucet.

https://www.amazon.com/Woodford-22CP...7-93deae8f9840

Works great plus hot and cold water.
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I installed this for my backyard faucet.

https://www.amazon.com/Woodford-22CP...7-93deae8f9840

Works great plus hot and cold water.
I ordered the single temp Prier's. https://www.prier.com/products/c-144/

When we had to fix the piping over the master bedroom, we added a hot water run, an outdoor shower and this for the faucet, but also added cut off's so even though it's frostproof, I don't have to worry about water in that wall.: https://www.prier.com/products/p-118/
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FWIW: A faucet that stops flowing isn't necessarily cracked. If the temps are marginal the ice can be soft enough to stop the flow, but not hard enough to expand and crack things.

If something is cracked, once it thaws the water will exit at whatever your water pressure is.
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Just cut the pipe off and install a Sharkbite cap, then water your lawn with bottled water. Be a baller.
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